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Caught appearance happened to last week, stuck to the plan and all went as well as could be expected. Although they did put my speeding offence on a sliding scale and hence, I received 4 points instead of 3. As described above the court’s do not want to convict you of both. Still don’t fully understand why.

The overall financial penalty was several times more than the normal speeding ticket, so I have to thank the Royal Mail for that. My old dad says if it feels like you’ve been robbed, you probably have.


Thanks again for the advice it was very useful.
A donation has been made to a local homeless charity on behalf of FTLA.


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I'll update in 2/3 weeks time and hopefully won't need to ask about defending the "Fail to Provide details" charge.

Thanks again.

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I can play the politeness game so that shouldn’t be a problem.

Currently six points on license so yes, another six is really what I’m trying to avoid. Sounds like a worst-case scenario now though.

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Thank you.

In trying to get the police prosecutor’s agreement should I mention that the NIP was not served correctly and that there is some evidence of a poor postal service to my address. Or again is it best to keep it simple and don’t give them more than what they need to know.

What happens if they don’t do the deal? How do I prepare for that? A statement of facts and print off the Royal Mail claims email chain.

If I am found guilty of both offences, then I believe, the points on my license would take me over the 12-point limit. Can I appeal after or is it best to set up mitigating circumstances on the day.

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Update today.

Summons to Court in about two weeks’ time. Very little else in the letter. Case ref matches.

Any advice? Do I need a solicitor?

How should I prepare?


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Thanks again for all the help. You are doing some good work here.

Glad to see the Pepipoo legacy continues

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Thank you for the explanation it is appreciated.

Tick both boxes as Not Guilty.

My Not Guilty Plea will be
“I will change my plea and admit to the Speeding offence if, and only if, the Fail to Provide Driver Details offence is dropped.”

Do I need to fill in the My Finances section? Seems a bit intrusive, what happens if I don’t?

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Apologies for being dumb. Do you mean:

Tick boxes.
Offence 1 section 172 - Not Guilty
Offence 2 speeding - Guilty

My Not Guilty Plea will be
“If you accept my not guilty plea then I (the driver) will plead guilty to the speeding offence.”

I don’t want to attend court. I just want to throw some money at this to make it go away.

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Plea deal it is, just because I have more important life issues to deal atm.

So, tick both boxes as Not Guilty.

My Not Guilty Plea will be
“Your Single Justice Procedure Notice was my first indication of the speeding offence therefore I have not been able to respond under section 172 as I was not in receipt of the Notice of Intended Prosecution for the Section 89 Road Traffic Act offence.

If you accept my not guilty plea for the section 172 offence, then I (the driver) will plead guilty to the speeding offence.”

Does that sound ok? Anything to add, take out or change?

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I do not have anything direct from the Royal Mail as it was the jeweler that had to make the claim against royal mail. I do how ever have a protracted email chain with the jeweler that has tracking and escalation numbers from the Royal Mail. The email conversation also highlights how poorly staffed the Royal Mail are and how difficult it is to talk to anybody at the mail centres. Is this classed as vague and rambling anecdotes in the eyes of the law?

Am I right in thinking that if this email chain is accepted as evidence then the original NIP was not issued/served within the 14 days.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Received a SJP notice but no NIP
« on: October 21, 2024, 11:16:26 am »
I have a similar issue to recent posts but having read the house rules I will start a fresh.

I have received a Single Justice Procedure notice in the post for a speeding offence back in May (58 in a 40 zone). I did not receive the NIP and this has come as a surprise. Again, not sure who was driving but I am willing to take the fine and the points (I am the registered keeper). Address is correct on the V5C but having issues with Royal mail post not arriving (partner lost a diamond ring a couple months ago, even though it was meant to be signed for and tracked).

Also have I missed two NIPs in total? Years ago, I missed one due to being abroad, but I was sent a reminder.

In a recent post it states:
“The normal way to deal with this is for he registered keeper to plead not guilty to both offences but offer to plead guilty to speeding on the understanding that the "fail to provide" charge will be dropped.”

Could you please confirm this is the best way forward for me.

Thanks for any advice in advance.
Jay

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