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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)
« on: October 25, 2024, 01:48:37 pm »
Quote from: Incandescent on October 24, 2024, 06:48:04 pm
The advance warning sign is not a traffic sign and most motorists would not notice it. It is yet another example of council stupidity. What is required is a sign showing the layout ahead, with the bus lane sign shown on it for the second exit of the mini-roundabout, to indicate the motorist must drive right, (3rd exit), or left, (1st exit) but not straight ahead, (2nd exit). Pretty simple, one would think, but of course if they did this the PCN cash flow would cease.

Would this be valid grounds to appeal this PCN?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)
« on: October 24, 2024, 04:40:06 pm »
It would appear this road was making the news already 6 years ago for the very same reasons

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/uxbridge-gazette/20180704/281569471477279

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)
« on: October 23, 2024, 06:54:22 pm »
Yes, I believe I must have passed that advance warning sign

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)
« on: October 23, 2024, 04:48:06 pm »
Quote from: John U.K. on October 23, 2024, 04:31:04 pm
Much better  :)  - now the experts here can put a fine toothcomb throuigh the 'small print'.
Is this where you entered the 'bus lane?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KAVr3iHf91Uwr41N8

If so, from which direction did you come?

Yes, that is precisely where I entered the bus lane.
I entered Vine St right after Cross St turned into Hillingdon Rd

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xmKwZAtjtbexZ7zy6

https://maps.app.goo.gl/z7wrcx3f5n9Hin8V8

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)
« on: October 23, 2024, 04:16:25 pm »
Hi John, thank you for your feedback.
Please find below the better version of the PCN (all pages attached)




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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)
« on: October 23, 2024, 02:49:02 pm »
--- deleted in favour of the pictures below ---

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 33J Hillingdon Bus Route
« on: October 19, 2024, 02:57:38 pm »
Hi!
It appears Hillingdon Council have now updated the wording of their PCN for the same bus route

II have started a new thread here

33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)

and I feel any more information from your previous and current experiences dealing with them could be of great help.
Thank you for your time!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / 33J Hillingdon Bus Route (10-2024 edition)
« on: October 19, 2024, 12:53:12 pm »
Hi all,

I found myself the recipient of the following PCN for accidentally ending up on a restricted bus route (my fault for being too trusty of the sat nav, but alas…!)

A similar case was debated last year in the following post
33J Hillingdon Bus Route

However, I noticed that the wording has been amended since  —  more specifically, they now state this PCN

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must be paid within the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served on this notice

Could anyone be so kind as to advise which grounds it would be best to challenge this PCN on?



Please find at the link below pictures of the full PCN, identifying details redacted


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UO7ISQw9ezboWSOiGjWdXz0k7zTt28Vm?usp=sharing

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