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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: North Somerset Council Bus Lane
« on: January 22, 2025, 09:57:10 am »
Many thanks Incandescent, PCN cancelled.
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Pick A and also F. If they only allow you to pick one, then this is a further procedural impropriety !
Reason to swap over is that the PCN is for a moving traffic offence indicated by signs that are inadequate, so this is the first reason, then, as a "by the way", the PCN is also unlawful. You don't have to follow what I suggest, of course.
If you take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal it would be with the full PCN penalty in play. Fear of losing the discount is why >95% of people just cough-up and confirm councils in their gaming of the system.
My view is that if the motorist is expected to obey the law, then the council is too.

IMHO you should swap over 1 & 2, but OK
Don't expect them to accept the reps. Councils ruthlessly game the system to maximise income, so reject almost all representations no matter how valid. You must be prepared to take them to adjudication if you want a fair hearing.
see 3(2)(b)Thanks - attached the PCN.The PCN is not lawful because it omits two of the statutory conditions for cancellation of the PCN. It seems that despite putting the applicable regulations at the top of the PCN, they didn't actually go and read it. So here is the regulation: -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/contents
See Regulations 3 and 5.
Can you point me to the relevant paragraph and line please? I'm reading it but being a layman failing to see what you were referring to
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/regulation/3
then see 5(4), which are the statutory grounds. Any missing on your PCN ?
Thanks - attached the PCN.The PCN is not lawful because it omits two of the statutory conditions for cancellation of the PCN. It seems that despite putting the applicable regulations at the top of the PCN, they didn't actually go and read it. So here is the regulation: -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/contents
See Regulations 3 and 5.
Thanks - attached the PCN.The PCN is not lawful because it omits two of the statutory conditions for cancellation of the PCN. It seems that despite putting the applicable regulations at the top of the PCN, they didn't actually go and read it. So here is the regulation: -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/contents
See Regulations 3 and 5.


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