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I was sitting there at the line unable to see the lights to my right and left and not blocking the junction. The lorry started to move so i moved forward then saw the light was red and stopped without crossing the junction. i probably sat there for under 5 seconds however missed the full amber and then the red


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Time into red 0.9 seconds. Amber time 2.9 seconds

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You can’t see the light to the left or the right when sitting at the junction. Only the one across from the junction that is obscured from the lorry.

Anyway only came here for some advice. I shall accept the penalty

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I am just saying that the chances oif finding 2 out of less than 200 people who have read this thread, know the junction and agree with me.

Its obviously a money spinning junction and they could not care less for the safety of pedestrians or drivers else they would have amended the signals positionjs

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Contravening a red light is not an offence that requires intent, so whether you meant to do it or knew you were doing it is irrelevant.

Thanks. What makes a crossing legal?

The fact I have posted on a forum and have had 2 people respond who know the junction and say the traffic lights are hard to see seems to strengthen the case that possibly the junction doesn't conform with the rules?

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Whilst in hindsight you are correct that I should have stopped, my question is would a judge side with me?

Please see attached photos https://www.imagebam.com/view/GACSPS

At this junction I had the added pressures of the 2 lanes merging into 1.

Maybe I just take the 3 points……

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It won’t let me upload images.
Error message saying the uploaded is full!

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the junction has the 2 standard traffic lights to the right and left of the junction plus a further traffic light over the junction on the right hand side.

When close to/ at the junction, you rely on the traffic light over the junction.

I am not 100% sure of what happened, but would assume I was coming up to the junction rather slowly leaving a safe gap in behind the lorry. The lane I was in merges with the far right lane over the junction. The road goes from 4 lanes to 3. so I was concentrating on that and could not see the traffic lights to my right and left and the one in front was obscured by the lorry.

Please see link to the junction.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5Ut6FicPF5k1frQeA

I am not trying to "get Off". Just am not a traffic light jumper which is why I stopped without crossing the junction as soon as I saw the light was red.

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No camera to the left. Will post google link when home

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I was caught jumping a red light. I was in very slow moving traffic.

I could not see the light at the junction to my right as my and the one across the junction was totally blocked by a lorry as can be seen in the photos.

as soon as the lorry moved and I saw the light was red I stopped and never crossed the junction.

Is it worth me going to court over this matter?

I have 0 points on my license and have been offered to be considered for a fixed penalty.

Thanks For looking and any advice


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