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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 52J PCN for violating restriction that is part of Healthy Neighbourhood Schemes
« on: October 10, 2024, 09:27:21 am »
I do feel that I did not break the intent of the Healthy Neighbourhood Scheme. HNS was designed to prevent cut through traffic but my journey took me only to Elmers Road, and I did not cut through.

The reduction I received is certainly welcome and if the consensus is that this is best outcome, I may have to accept.
 

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 52J PCN for violating restriction that is part of Healthy Neighbourhood Schemes
« on: October 09, 2024, 02:49:54 pm »
Quote from: Incandescent on October 09, 2024, 02:45:49 pm
Fatal in London to rely solely on satnav, it is never up-to-date.  "but it is, I only uodated it yesterday" do I hear you say ? Yes, but is the date base that supplied the satnav up-to-date ?

To be clear, I use Google Maps, but I am not sure if they pick up these restrictions.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 52J PCN for violating restriction that is part of Healthy Neighbourhood Schemes
« on: October 09, 2024, 02:24:39 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on October 09, 2024, 01:10:57 pm
It's a simple small zone as these go and that they cancelled one is a good result.

There may be issues with the PCN and their replies that could be challenged if you post them.

I assume you saw the signage.



As the area was new to me, I was a bit focused on following the SatNav. I have a couple of similar restrictions close to my residence. These are restrictions around schools and I was a bit unaware of these type of restrictions.

I tried to attach the rejection letter, but unable to upload (only 300kb file). Will try to figure this out.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 52J PCN for violating restriction that is part of Healthy Neighbourhood Schemes
« on: October 09, 2024, 02:14:46 pm »

I am new to the area and simply followed my SatNav. I entered the road and parked a few houses down the road and returned.

If you like to see the video, please go to:
https://viewmypcn.co.uk/Default.aspx

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / 52J PCN for violating restriction that is part of Healthy Neighbourhood Schemes
« on: October 09, 2024, 12:13:30 pm »
Hi

I visited a property in Elmer's Road in Croydon. I arrived at 11.45hrs, visited the property and left the street 1205hrs. The road has the following sign on either side:

yellow rectangle with a red bordered white circle containing images of a motorcycle and a car to indicate that there is no access for motorised vehicles


I was served two PCNs. I approached the council and informed them that

1) I did not use the street as a cut through to reach others.
2) I was visiting a property in the road and provided proof of appointment.

Despite proofs, the Council opted to go ahead and charge me for one and withdrew the second PCN.

The justification to introduce restriction by Council is (as per letter):

This road restriction forms part of Croydon's Healthy Neighbourhood Scheme, designed and introduced to reduce traffic that comes from vehicles using the streets as a cut through to reach others. Council's aim is to create networks of streets for people to safely travel through on foot, bicycle or by bus.

My question to you is as follows:
  • why I am being charged when I did not use the street as a cut through? I just visited a property in the street. I have proof
  • My travel was on a Saturday when the risk to creating safety issue is relatively low (schools closed)

Do you see a basis to go and argue my case against the council? Am I being a bit greedy?

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