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This is both. Date on the letter is 02.12.2024, so it will be extended up to and included the 16.12.2024.

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Hi, date of rejection of challenge is today (02.12.24).

I’ve attached my challenge/original appeal.

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Hi,

I’ve received a response from Hackney Council where they’ve rejected my appeal to the PCN, which is as follows:

“You were issued a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) for parking in a bay that had been suspended. There were yellow warning signs saying 'Parking Suspension. No waiting, No loading'. Bays are generally suspended to allow for roadworks or large delivery vehicles.
When suspensions are put in place a charge is made to the contractor/customer using it therefore bays cannot be used to stop, wait or load/unload and the area must be kept clear at all times whether works appear to be taking place or not.

While you may be a resident and hold a Zone A permit, it is clearly detailed in the terms and conditions of use for Resident's Permits that a resident permit does not allow parking in a suspended bay. By applying for a permit the
applicant accepts these terms and conditions and therefore should adhere to them accordingly.

Before suspending the parking, we put up the warning sign. When the sign went up, our engineers recorded the registration numbers of the parked vehicles. Your vehicle is not on that list, so we are satisfied that you parked later, when the warning sign was already up.

Before we suspend parking bays, we have to put up warning signs and we did this on 07/11/2024. It is up to drivers to check on their cars every day to make sure that the parking bay is not being suspended. Also in relation to the signage,
a suspension will generally be advertised by a suspension sign, which is normally affixed to the parking time plate/s closest to the suspension. Hence, why only one sign had been placed as it only affected part and not the entirety of the bay.

We have acknowledged our comment that the bay is one consistent section, however, based on our records and measurements of the bay within the allotted section of the suspended area 3 vehicles should be able to park.

Therefore, we are satisfied the contravention had occurred as it is the motorist's/permit holder's responsibility to always check the relevant roadside sign(s) for any bay, in which they intend to park, to ensure that their parking bay is not
suspended and that they have parked in accordance with the restrictions in force.

The PCN remains enforced however we have extended the discount period for a further 14 days, giving you the opportunity to pay the discounted amount which will be accepted as full and final payment for this PCN.”

It seems that they’ve “acknowledged” the bay is one consistent section but didn’t mention anything in the response to mention that it was incorrectly drawn on the sign they posted. Just wondering if I have grounds to carry this on further?

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Hi,

Full front page can be found in this link here from the original post - https://imgur.com/a/137XprU

If you keep scrolling you’ll be able to find it. Should have the type of contravention, time of contravention, etc

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I parked the night before I received the charge. I checked the map again and it incorrectly shows the illustration of the bay. It shows that the bay is split into two with a significant amount of space in between but it’s one continuous bay as shown on google maps and the images I attached in the original post.

https://imgur.com/a/OHe1wp1

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Hi,

I received a PCN today for parking in a bay that I have a residents permit for as I live in the area (Zone A). I received a ticket as the bay has been suspended. However, I believe this is incorrect because the council has only put one sign on the street to show that the bay has been suspended. The bay has two signposts to show what the restrictions are but yet only one of them had the sign, which makes it confusing and not clear. I've attached the PCN and also pictures of the area for reference.

https://imgur.com/a/137XprU

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fiPt54tp1yv8eTNw9


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That’s what I’ve mentioned on one of my previous posts; the letter/receipt that was included in the yellow envelope, I can’t find it. May have lost it

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Hi,

Thanks for your response (and patience!).

I had attached the link previously with the council’s response - https://imgur.com/a/ALVvmsv

This has my address on it and name. This is the only thing I’ve received from the council thus far. Haven’t received a NtO in the post as of yet. I haven’t started drafting a formal response up as I wanted to see if I had a chance of being successful and making sure I include the right info before drafting it.

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Apologies I don’t have the physical notice served on the car. Tried to locate it but can’t find it unfortunately  :'(

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See attached PCN - had to get it from the Hackney website

https://imgur.com/a/c94boFL

Yes, I am the registered keeper and owner of the car. I have the V5c and the address is also up to date.

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Sorry what do you mean by pl repost?

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As far as I can determine, the link goes to their response to your unseen challenge, not the PCN itself.

On this basis, do I have a fair chance of escalating this?

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