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I am pleased to say that I got a letter from Barnet accepting my representations and cancelling the PCN!!  :)

Special thanks to Mr.Mustard, Hippocrates, stamfordman

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Thank you. I have submitted a challenge. Fingers crossed it is accepted!

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Thank you. Amended to read more clearly.

Subject: Appeal of Penalty Charge Notice [PCN Number]

Dear Barnet Council,

I am writing to challenge the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) [PCN Number], issued on [date] at [location]. I am the keeper of the car, and my son was driving the car at the time.

As shown in the image evidence provided, a vehicle was stopped near the width restriction, obstructing the left-turn lane. Police officers were actively managing the situation at the time, and several drivers, including my son, were forced to carefully navigate around the traffic island to avoid the obstruction.

Given that the stopped vehicle blocked the route, there was liquid on the road surface, which looked like oil, the car had it's hazard lights on, and in my son's judgement a high likelihood of other additional road hazards, such as mirror shards or other debris, it would not have been safe to go through the width restriction. Therefore, my son proceeded cautiously and followed the actions of other drivers who also diverted to the opposite side of the traffic island to avoid any potential danger. You will note that the traffic approaching from Alexandra Grove were stopping at the "Give Way" lines at the junction, the on coming traffic on Nether Street would also need to slow down as they had to go through the width restriction and finally the traffic from Argyle Road were also stopping at the "Give Way" lines.

The police presence including a police car on at the scene indicates that this was an unusual circumstance and were managing the traffic situation, and I believe my son's actions were reasonable and necessary to ensure safe passage. My son acted with due care and caution, and in light of these exceptional circumstances, I respectfully request that this PCN be cancelled.

Thank you for considering my appeal.

Kind regards,
[Your Name]
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I am planning on sending the following letter to Barnet. Any comments or suggestions would be most welcome:

Subject: Appeal of Penalty Charge Notice [PCN Number]

Dear Barnet Council,

I am writing to challenge the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) [PCN Number], issued on [date] at [location]. I am the keeper of the car, and my son was driving the car at the time.

As shown in the image evidence provided, a vehicle was stopped near the width restriction, obstructing the left-turn lane. Police officers were actively managing the situation at the time, and several vehicles, including mine, were forced to carefully navigate around the traffic island to avoid the obstruction.

Given that the stopped vehicle blocked the route, there was liquid on the road surface, which looked like oil, the car had it's hazard lights on, and in my judgement a high likelihood of other additional road hazards, such as mirror shards or other debris, it would not have been safe to go through the width restriction. Therefore, my son proceeded cautiously and followed the actions of other drivers who also diverted to the opposite side of the traffic island to avoid any potential danger. You will note that the traffic approaching from Alexandra Grove were stopping at the "Give Way" lines at the junction, the on coming traffic on Nether Street would also need to slow down as they had to go through the width restriction and finally the traffic from Argyle Road were also stopping at the "Give Way" lines.

The police presence including a police car on at the scene indicates that this was an unusual circumstance and were managing the traffic situation, and I believe my actions were reasonable and necessary to ensure safe passage. I acted with due care and caution, and in light of these exceptional circumstances, I respectfully request that this PCN be cancelled.

Thank you for considering my appeal.

Kind regards,
[Your Name]

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Thank you for that.

And if I do challenge does that mean I would have to pay the higher amount if my challenge is denied?

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He went ahead

Do you know what the timescales are for the challenge? And if do challenge does that mean I would have to pay the higher amount if my challenge is denied?

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Thanks. I am not sure if the police did direct the traffic around, but it is possible they did.

I am planning on sending the following letter to Barnet. Any comments or suggestions would be most welcome:

Subject: Appeal of Penalty Charge Notice [PCN Number]

Dear Barnet Council,

I am writing to challenge the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) [PCN Number], issued on [date] at [location].

As shown in the image evidence provided, a vehicle was stopped near the width restriction, obstructing the left-turn lane. Police officers were actively managing the situation at the time, and several vehicles, including mine, were forced to carefully navigate around the traffic island to avoid the obstruction.

Given that the stopped vehicle blocked the route, there was liquid on the road surface, which looked like oil, the car had it's hazard lights on, and in my judgement a high likelihood of other additional road hazards, such as mirror shards or other debris, it would not have been safe to go through the width restriction. Therefore, I proceeded cautiously and followed the actions of other drivers who also diverted to the opposite side of the traffic island to avoid any potential danger. You will note that the traffic approaching from Alexandra Grove were stopping at the "Give Way" lines at the junction, the on coming traffic on Nether Street would also need to slow down as they had to go through the width restriction and finally the traffic from Argyle Road were also stopping at the "Give Way" lines.

The police presence including a police car on at the scene indicates that this was an unusual circumstance and were managing the traffic situation, and I believe my actions were reasonable and necessary to ensure safe passage. I acted with due care and caution, and in light of these exceptional circumstances, I respectfully request that this PCN be cancelled.

Thank you for considering my appeal.

Kind regards,
[Your Name]

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Thank you for your replies.

as you say there may have been space to squeeze by, but there were at least 2 cars in front of my son and as you say naturally you wouldn't want to risk driving too close to the car in the accident just to squeeze past.

The car had it's hazard lights on and there was liquid possibly oil on the road surface.

so, do you think it is worth appealing?

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Hello
This is the first time of posting and I am hoping I can get some help with this PCN.

My son was driving and approached a width restriction. However, there was an accident and the car involved in the accident was blocking the width restriction. Police were in attendance and can be seen in the photos sent to me from the Council. Cars were then driving slowly around the width restriction to proceed.

The police were there and dealing with the driver of the car involved in the accident, surely this would be an exemption. I am sure many of the drivers who passed this accident would have received the same PCN!

PCN: AG46632839
VRM: VN61FSV

These are images sent by the council in the PCN:
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This is the Google maps streetview:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bka991HmgqksUq3w9

Thanking you in advance for your assistance.

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