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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding and Failure to provide driver information - Single Justice Procedure Notice
« on: September 07, 2024, 02:37:08 pm »
Quote from: NewJudge on September 07, 2024, 01:57:53 pm

You could also ask the court to consider sentencing you at the level equivalent to the fixed penalty (£100 and 3 points). Magistrates have guidance that suggests they should consider this in circumstances unconnected with the offence itself, such as administrative difficulties.

Thanks for that. In this sentencing request, do I have any chance of getting a speed awareness course instead of the 3 points? Or is there a chance this would jeopardise the deal?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Speeding and Failure to provide driver information - Single Justice Procedure Notice
« on: September 07, 2024, 01:32:18 pm »
In march I got caught speeding, 37 in a 30. I received the form to notify the police who was driving the car, filled it out and requested a speed awareness course as I was eligible.

A few weeks go by, I get a letter saying they didn’t receive anything, warning me to respond before it’s taken further. In this letter, it also mentioned to ignore it if I recently sent them the form. Just to be safe, I filled it out and had it posted again.

6 months later, I’ve forgotten about it, haven’t heard anything since the last letter and I receive a single justice procedure notice, with 2 charges. The original speeding offence, as well as a failure to provide information relating to the driver.

I’ve had a look for evidence that I did send the letter as I intend to plead not guilty to the failure to provide information charge. Here’s where I need some advice.

At the time, I worked from home, I filled out the form and asked my mum to drop it off on her way to work. (There’s a post box outside her office) I asked her if she had any evidence of this. Turns out, she asked one of her colleagues to do it for her, and notified her that it was important. Luckily for me, This colleague then took a video of her dropping it into a postbox, with an exact date and time, and is willing to write a statement to corroborate this.

As for the second form, this was sent by my mum herself and she doesn’t have any evidence like the first instance.

The crux of the issue is, I didn’t send either of these forms myself. Is this something that would inadvertently incriminate myself? Is it solely my responsibility to make sure these letters were sent? Could I be found guilty because I didn’t send them myself?

(In England)

Thanks in advance

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I posted this on Reddit and was guided to this forum, with mention of pleading not guilty to both charges, then completing a deal with a prosecutor. I’ve looked for similar posts but can’t find any guidance on this approach. Can anyone give me some pointers or even link me to some relevant posts that go through this?


Thanks again

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