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Follow the appeal process, otherwise it would be messy.

Edinburgh City Council usually allow you a further 14 days to pay the discount rate when you recieve a Notice of Rejection.

thanks, where can I confirm that I would get 14 days discounted rate even after the appeal rejection? Any links etc. That would give me a bit more confidence to fight my case.
There's normally something about this in the small print on the back of the PCN. Look in 'how to challenge'

I checked I can't find anything on the PCN or online. Can someone confirm from experience or any info suggesting that it is the case would be really useful. thanks

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Follow the appeal process, otherwise it would be messy.

Edinburgh City Council usually allow you a further 14 days to pay the discount rate when you recieve a Notice of Rejection.

thanks, where can I confirm that I would get 14 days discounted rate even after the appeal rejection? Any links etc. That would give me a bit more confidence to fight my case.

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You just need to make a challenge as below. See what others say first though.

I am challenging the contravention on the grounds that it did not occur as there does not appear to be an upright sign for a different bay at the location, only signs for pay and display parking.
I have reviewed the pictures taking by your CEO and there is no picture of an upright sign showing a bay for a different class of vehicle.
I feel this PCN has been issued in error and look forward to your early confirmation of cancellation.

thanks, do you think, I can put an appeal with this text and someone may get back by Friday and if not I just pay it before 14 days end as paying full or more would be way too much. there is no contact number to speak to a real person in this case, unfortunately.

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thanks for all your comments. Is it worth just calling them (if it is possible, not sure i need to check if they have a contact number) to see if they can cancel my ticket over the phone after I explain to them about my reasons etc.

So, let's say if I decide to appeal today, does that not mean that the remainder of the 14 days would be frozen after the appeal has been decided? From the comments, it looks like this is not the case?

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Well the sign was there looking at the pics now. I didn't know how to check those but thanks for uploading them. do I stand any chance for an appeal? I have heard that if you lose the appeal then the discounted rate of £50 is also gone??

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Lets say even if I was parked in the Solo M/CS bay, I still didn't have any ticket displayed otherwise, I could have argued that I had a valid ticket but was not sure that it was for M/CS etc. However, the markings on the road still remain questionable and I cannot go back and check.

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There is no sign for the motorcycle bay, only worn-out text on the carriageway. So if I park a motorcycle, do I have to pay or not ? All the carriageway text says is "Solo M/Cs". There is no word "only". It is marked on the carriageway as a separate bay, (see the double-dashed lines perpendicular to the kerb), so must have its own sign; they cannot escape from this requirement.

So submit reps on the basis that there are no signs to draw attention to the M/C bay, only worn-out text on the carriageway. The lack of a sign giving the conditions for this bay means the PCN cannot be enforced. Don't expect them to roll-over and cancel. Post-up your reps and their response when you get it. If you decide to take the matter to the Scottish adjudicators, you'll have to forego the discount option.

Also note that Scotland are still under the 1991 Act, not the later, Traffic Management Act of 2004.


@Incandescent
re no signs
Google June 2023 shows signs at each end of the bay
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cYEtdDWfqDMQqoZq6
and
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5eEghK3xEp9u3sMK8

@ezycraf - are the signs still there? Hold fire for the moment with Incandescent's suggestion. Were there any Council photos?

yes the signs on the lamp posts were there, however, I am 99% certain that the signs on the road saying solo M/CS were not there unless I missed it as it was raining and they have faded away since 2023 as the google street view shows.

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For meaningful advice please have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post up here both sides of the unredacted PCN, a GSV link to the location and any Council photos.

thanks for your reply.

The link to the google street view is:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5TtAkK5TUhZWazXdA

Now upon looking at the GSV, I may have parked in the SOLO M/CS bay but I am pretty sure that I didn't see these wording on the road on the day.

Please see the ticket:

https://imgur.com/a/M7E5jZh

thanks and waiting to hear from seniors and experts.

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Hello fellow members;

I am in a bit of a trouble and would need some help. So, I was visiting Edinburgh, Scotland from England over the weekend on 25th August and I parked in the city centre where the parking restrictions applied until 6:30pm but I parked there at 16:30 thinking that the restrictions have lapsed! You can call it a silly mistake but it happened as I was with family (and kids) so mush have been tired after long drive that I probably misread the signs and assumed that the restrictions were until 16:30 but in fact it was 6:30pm. Perhaps, should have paid a bit more attention. When I returned after about an hour, I found myself with a penalty charge notice. Do I have any grounds to appeal and if yes, could you please guide me to the right direction, your help will be really appreciated. Also, how easy is it to get it overturned without making it into a court case. The ticket was issued by NSL limited (company address is in Sheffield).

The parking ticket says "23 Parked in a parking place not designated for that class of vehicle". I want to appeal as soon as possible but do not know where to start as money saving experts (MSE) parking forum only helps with private parking fines.

Thank you!

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