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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP Location error
« on: August 26, 2024, 09:34:59 pm »
I'm virtually certain neither the van or my car when pinged were in the boundary of the village according to the OS map
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP Location error
« on: August 26, 2024, 09:00:38 pm »
All, many thanks for your replies, to answer your points:
To Andy, if I was facing a simple five or ten MPH over the limit I'd be looking at £100 and three points, it's been five years since I last had an NIP so I might even get a speed awareness option. But twenty five over the limit is more like six points and a means tested fine unless you're suggesting otherwise?
To Fuzzy, I don't have a picture but I hear that it's possible to get one along with the full GPS coordinates.
To Richard, no question I was in the thirty limit when pinged.
However, we've wandered off the question a bit, so.....
If I download an OS map I can see the boundary of the village, let's call it Little Whinging, I can even get GPS coordinates for where the village starts and finishes.
If for example there's a speeding offence on the motorway it simply says the speed and the name of the motorway but in my case the NIP not only states the name of the road but also where on the road the offence occurred i.e. 55 in a 30, A1234 Little Whinging.
My point is that where I was pinged is not in Little Whinging, it outside the boundary of the village which I can prove using GPS. Therefore the NIP is wrong but does it matter???
To Andy, if I was facing a simple five or ten MPH over the limit I'd be looking at £100 and three points, it's been five years since I last had an NIP so I might even get a speed awareness option. But twenty five over the limit is more like six points and a means tested fine unless you're suggesting otherwise?
To Fuzzy, I don't have a picture but I hear that it's possible to get one along with the full GPS coordinates.
To Richard, no question I was in the thirty limit when pinged.
However, we've wandered off the question a bit, so.....
If I download an OS map I can see the boundary of the village, let's call it Little Whinging, I can even get GPS coordinates for where the village starts and finishes.
If for example there's a speeding offence on the motorway it simply says the speed and the name of the motorway but in my case the NIP not only states the name of the road but also where on the road the offence occurred i.e. 55 in a 30, A1234 Little Whinging.
My point is that where I was pinged is not in Little Whinging, it outside the boundary of the village which I can prove using GPS. Therefore the NIP is wrong but does it matter???
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Speeding and other criminal offences / NIP Location error
« on: August 25, 2024, 06:05:07 pm »
Hi, I have an NIP for 55 in a 30 which is obviously worrying, were the offence just a simple SP30 I would take the hit, I'm not disputing the speed just the location:
The van was parked on the edge of a village but well outside the area where housing begins and literally next to the sign saying welcome to *** the NIP just states the road number and the village name. The 30 limit applies throughout the village for the distance of a mile and a half, therefore to someone unfamiliar with the area it appears I was travelling way too quickly through the heart of a village which is absolutely not the case.
The gateway where the speed limit changes from 60 to 30 is a hundred yards further away from the village than the welcome sign, I'm therefore saying that my speed would have been measured OUTSIDE the village boundary because I stood on the brakes when I saw the van.
I've checked both the van position and the gateway using GPS to get an exact degrees/minutes/seconds location for both. Is it possible/does the information exist for the camera van to also provide similar data is my first question?
But also, having read other comments on this site I Don't know what to do with the NIP as replying appears to accept that I was the driver at this speed in the stated location whereas I am questioning the location, only a hundred yards but the specifics are important (I think!)
Thank you.
The van was parked on the edge of a village but well outside the area where housing begins and literally next to the sign saying welcome to *** the NIP just states the road number and the village name. The 30 limit applies throughout the village for the distance of a mile and a half, therefore to someone unfamiliar with the area it appears I was travelling way too quickly through the heart of a village which is absolutely not the case.
The gateway where the speed limit changes from 60 to 30 is a hundred yards further away from the village than the welcome sign, I'm therefore saying that my speed would have been measured OUTSIDE the village boundary because I stood on the brakes when I saw the van.
I've checked both the van position and the gateway using GPS to get an exact degrees/minutes/seconds location for both. Is it possible/does the information exist for the camera van to also provide similar data is my first question?
But also, having read other comments on this site I Don't know what to do with the NIP as replying appears to accept that I was the driver at this speed in the stated location whereas I am questioning the location, only a hundred yards but the specifics are important (I think!)
Thank you.
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