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Still debating this one. £100 to effectively admit guilt of an offence where no evidence has been provided. What a sham.

@baroudeur @RichardW - Thanks for your replies. To give some extra context (there's always some, right?):

There was an event for the public held at a commercial premises. At least in one instance, the police had set themselves up road-side nearby to 'catch' potential offenders leaving the event.

As far as I am aware, the police were only present on the near-side of the road, pulling people into a layby. I do not know what device or location was used to capture evidence in relation to the allegations against me. My assumption it was a mobile/portable camera used as part of this temporary road-side posture.

@RichardW - To answer your MOT question, yes the vehicle was MOT'd with this plate. However, the MOT rules don't go into the same level of detail as the Act would require (e.g. MOT tester isn't going to stand 22 metres away from the vehicle at 45 degrees to read the plate).

@baroudeur The vehicle would have been moving at time of evidence capturing, so no notice on the vehicle, hence the NIP.

So did return the s172 request, and the Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty arrived last week.. Attached to post. Looks like I wouldn't get to see any evidence, as people have pointed out, unless I take it to court.

I am pretty confident that there is practically no way the police could have clear evidence that the plate was not fully readable from a 90 degree window of viewing. They may have it from one viewpoint, but multiple? Doubtful.

It's just £100, I get it. I also think things should be right and proper, but as I get older I am somewhat of a pragmatist, and appreciate there's no practical way the police could enforce this rule whilst a vehicle is mobile, unless the plate is missing or something very obvious.

What are the potential implications of taking this to court? Is there a way this could go to court and not cost me more than £100? Even taking time off work is worth more than that to me.

What if I am found guilty? Is that a criminal record? I get DBS checked for my job. I need to consider this.

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Is there a photo?  It's doubtful there would be enough details of the plate regarding maker/supplier/ BS marks from a fixed camera photograph 'cos hundreds of 'iffy' plates must be flashed every day

I have no idea what evidence there is yet, I assume I will be able to see that once I identify the driver. I'm familiar with the regs you posted and as above, it's possible that it only meets the diagonal view from one angle, not t'other. BUT how would they prove that with a photo from one angle? That's going to be my point in the future, I suspect.

Et voila.. a somewhat confusing letter, page 1 says it was issued correctly, then page they play the 'we'll let you off this one time' spiel..

Thank you to those that helped, greatly appreciated. The old boy is too!

No response yet to the appeal.

@DWMB2 Many thanks for your lightning response. The appeal form does have a drop-down, is it OK to select registered keeper?

Hi all,

First post here - didn't realise pepipoo was no more but found the link to here via reddit.

My 82yr old Father overstayed his welcome at a Brittania-managed car park (Waitrose). It's been a long time since I last dealt with a PCN so curious if anything has changed in the past few years, but crucially do you have recommendations on how to get this PCN cancelled.

Photos attached. I am not sure if he has a proof of purchase over £10 to qualify for parking. Many thanks for your advice.

Streetmap link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/21hu81SQigLYX1DEA