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Contact the issuing traffic office and ask for any pictures to try to help identify the driver at the time. Explain why you need this help as you were both sharing driving and cant remember at that time who was driving.

Other then that, your likely going o get a speed awareness course. So if either of you claim the offence, you will pay 80-100 pounds to book the course and can be done online nowadays or in person and is around 3 hours long.

If you cant find out who was the driver at time via help from the ticket office, then you can either just have one of you claim it and take the course.

If you cant decide who was driving and dont want to claim it, then submit the reasons why to the traffic office and they will decide if to pursue for the fail to notify offence and you may have to go to court or they may just drop the case entirely. But this is a toss up about what they decide to do.

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Ok i had a reply from the tvp traffic office. They shared the footage with me and it wasnt where they said it was, it was further along where theres a long straight. Im shown overtaking the cam car behind another vehicle. We both over take and move into the space. I then pull out and overtake that vehicle  aswell and another infront of him and go out of view. They stated in the email that i made oncoming vehicles have to take evasive action with careless overtaking. My driving didn't effect the cam car or any on my side btw and from the footage i didnt see any issues from other side. The road i was driving down is a very wide single carriageway with a straight for around 300m. Hence why people use it to overtake slow moving traffic.

Anyway i digress. They have stated they have reviewed the case and will just be offering a warning letter and case complete. Im very relieved and even though i think the whole thing was a waste of time, ive decided to calm down my driving anyway. I no longer overtake as much as i used to and have more of a chill approach to commuting and long journeys. As any car i overtake could have a dash cam, so why take the risk footage will be sent in and have this stress.

Thanks for comments and help given, im glad this is all sorted and my license remains clean.

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I doubt you'll get a NIP as they don't know who the driver was until you tell them by completing the s172 grassing yourself up.

Aye, the time for getting a nip is long past, hence why i asked in my cover letter why i never received one. Im just wondering what's going on as i returned the 172 info weeks ago and had no reply. I guess no news is good news, will just wait and see what comes of it. As i mentioned the stl for the offence runs out in november.

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Just an update, i returned the filled in 172 form with a cover page requesting more information if possible about the incident, as it had been so long i had no idea what it was i was supposed to have done. I also questioned why i hadnt had a NIP for the offence. I am yet to hear back from them at this point and wondering whats going on. Im gonna just wait and see and have tried to stop worrying about what happens with this one. If i get any update in terms of a reply from TVP then ill pop a reply on. At this point the offence runs out in november as it will be passed 6 months by then....but realistically i should hear back before then unless something drastic has happened.

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So you're overtaking (a queue of?) slower moving traffic on the approach to a roundabout, and the approach is single carriageway?

Its quite a wide single carriageway road separated by normal white road markings. When i overtake any traffic at the location i would pull back in well before the roundabout.

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... I know i sometimes overtake traffic there, as there is a long run up to a roundabout and usually slow moving traffic leading up to it...

If you are using the approach to the roundabout to overtake slow moving traffic, could you possibly be using a right turn only lane but going straight on?

No mate, this is a single carriageway road at national speed limit. It doesnt have a solid line in middle. It splits into two lanes once it reaches the roundabout and both are straight on lanes (or left turn for left lane, right turn for right lane).

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Im the registered keeper and own the vehicle outright...

Have you actually looked at your V5C to confirm that your name and - especially - your address are both recorded correctly?

The name and address on that document are what are used to send out the first NIP.  Any discrepancy would explain delayed or missing paperwork.

Yes mate its all correct on the v5.

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Ok well, i guess i just need tvp to get back to me with circumstances and evidence then and see where to go from there.

If im in the wrong then ill own the mistake. im just in the dark with this whole thing at the moment. I have a clean license, so im hoping if worst comes to worst to possibly accept a course or ticket and avoid court. Ill update once i hear back from them.

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Im the registered keeper and own the vehicle outright. There is no issue with the notice being sent elsewhere incorrectly before i got this one. This also seems to be their first correspondence with me (not a follow up letter, with first being missed) and is just a 172 asking for driver details, rather then a nip aswell (which i believe they usually send nip and 172 together). So far as im concerned i havent been nipped for the offence so far....

Anyone ever had this before? I read a few articles online and its stated that the offence of careless driving usually requires a verbal nip at time of offence or one sent by post within 14 days of offence. I also read this doesn't apply if someone is hurt in an accident. I 100% have not been involved in an accident so im completely in the dark at the moment with it.

Anyone had anything similar happen to them?

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I wasnt involved in any accident thats for sure. I guess im just gonna have to wait and see what happens after i return the 172 notice. I honestly have no memory of any incidents at the location. I know i sometimes overtake traffic there, as there is a long run up to a roundabout and usually slow moving traffic leading up to it. I wonder if this could be something to do with it. I cant think of anything else if im honest. Ive been doing this route for nearly 10 years though and if conditions allow, i always overtake slower vehicles at this point...so wonder what the issue is. I guess i have the nervous wait now for the next letter.

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Hi all,

I got a lovely section 172 notice (asking for driver details) from thames valley police today. This was bare bones on any info but basically said they were considering prosecution for "careless driving" and the location and date and time of the offence. Im confused as the offence was dated 20/05/24 and the date on the notice was 08/08/24. I wasnt stopped by an officer at the time and dont remember any incidents at all. So im in the dark atm. My confusion stems from the fact i didnt receive a nip within 14 days of the offence. It is now well over 50 days since it happened in fact. Im going to reply on the 172 with my details, as i know failing to provide details is a seperate offence but plan to add a cover letter asking if the offence will be time barred as i didnt receive a nip at all. Anyone have any experience of this and has anyone ever been prosecuted for careless driving without a nip?

Any replies welcome

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