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As keeper of a vehicle, I received a £100 Parking Charge Notice. I was not the driver at the time of the alleged parking charge notice. I have viewed the dashcam footage from the vehicle however. It appears the vehicle entered the car park and was immediately stuck in traffic to exit the car park. The driver and the passenger, while in traffic, swapped places (so that the passenger could do a driving lesson with L plates).


It took 16 minutes from entering the car park to leave and at no time was the vehicle parked, merely moving forward in traffic throughout until exit.

However, I am only able to view footage on the dashcam and when I try to save the video footage from the SD card it cannot be read. I tried videoing the dashcam playback from the dashcam on my phone but after trying to save it, it can no longer even be viewed on the dashcam.

The Parking Charge Notice has photographs of entry and exit of the car park only, not usage of a parking bay (obviously, as one wasn't used). Furthermore, this photography seems to be ANPR despite no signage saying ANPR is in use.

If relevant, there were many empty parking bays in the car park, so there was no "loss" to the business as a result of the driver's supposed "parking" either.

Because the Parking Charge Notice doesn't specify the period of "parking" (as it cannot), only the entry and exit times of the car park, it is not compliant with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and I intend not to pass on either of the driver details as a result.  But were this not so who would I name as the driver anyway as there was more than one?

Also the Notice To Keeper states payment must be made within 28 days of the date issued rather than as statutorily required within 28 days of receipt, so is non-compliant under POFA 2012 Paragraph 9. There is an 800 character limit for appeal on the Euro Car Parks website so I was thinking about submitting the following:

"I am the registered keeper and I am not required to name the driver as you have not met POFA Schedule 4. Your monetary claim is disproportionate, punitive and unjustifiable in total. Any contractual breach can have caused no financial loss whatever to you or to the land owner. I have not entered into a contract with you. You are using ANPR camera systems but this is not clearly advertised on the signage. Your civil parking notice does not state either a VAT registration number or an invoice reference number. Your notice wrongly requires payment to be made within 28 days of issue which is contrary to statutory requirement that provides a period of 28 days from date of receipt. The PCN does not show when and how any parking offence took place, only supposed entry and exit of the car park."

Any advice would be welcome.

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That seems pretty straightforward, thank you! I will get right on it.

For information for those reading in future, I selected "Other" from the below list.

Click on the reason for your challenge:

    My vehicle was stolen
    The contravention did not occur
    The amount specified on the notice is incorrect
    I was not the Registered Keeper/Driver at the time of the contravention
    Mitigating circumstances prevented me from parking correctly
    My vehicle has been cloned
    Other


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Today I received a Parking Charge Notice from APCOA "for the contravention of Use of Drop Off Zone without making a valid payment at Heathrow Terminal Drop Off T3".

It is dated within 14 days for a car I am the registered owner and keeper of and the driver at the time and did use the Drop Off Zone to drop off a passenger.

I fully intended to pay (who would rather have the fine than pay?) but following being in a coma a few years ago my memory has significantly deteriorated. Being as there is no facility to pay at the time I must have overlooked doing so upon my return home.

This is a circumstance that disproportionately affects me (and is likely to do so again in future) due to my memory issue. I'd like to be able to simply pay the charge and ideally get some sort of reminder to do so ahead of a fine should it happen again, but am concerned that because of my medical condition I am being discriminated against as unlike most people I am not able to remember if I have paid (or indeed if I need to pay) and therefore am more likely to be fined again. There was never any intent to avoid paying on my part.

The appeal categories do not fit my circumstances, although there is a category for "other". I'm reluctant to complete the appeal process before taking advice though. Any thoughts or advice would be welcome. Many thanks in advance.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: S172 NIP
« on: August 11, 2024, 11:19:12 pm »
I guess they would never let the cash cow of speed cameras dry up simply because they were found not to be inaccurate and no amount of legal experts proving this help matters. I guess I'll just have to bend over and take it!  :-\

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: S172 NIP
« on: August 10, 2024, 01:45:21 pm »
100% certain I didn't creep up to 80. 99% certain I didn't go above 70.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / S172 NIP
« on: August 10, 2024, 12:56:03 pm »
This morning, 10th August 2024 I received a NIP from Hertfordshire Constabulary for my vehicle allegedly traveling at 80mph in a 70mph motorway limit on the M25 at Junction 21A-22 at 10:37:56 on 3rd August 2024. Supplied with the NIP was an Offence Viewer Log On Help Sheet, providing access to evidence including a speed camera configuration report and photographic evidence of the alleged speeding offence.

However, I remember this journey well as I was headed to pick up my family from the airport and was ahead of schedule so was not speeding at all on this journey and did not go above 70mph as it would have got me there too early. Unfortunately my dashcam doesn't record speed, but I understand it wouldn't be sufficient as admissible evidence against the speed camera anyway.

Nevertheless, I have read this: http://www.pepipoo.com/Inaccurate_speed_cameras.htm and wonder if loud music in my or the adjacent vehicle or the adjacent vehicle itself could have impacted the reading? Obviously I cannot measure the exact distance traveled in the alleged 0.35 seconds the photos were taken apart on the M25 to get an exact distance covered in that time, but if I was traveling at below 70mph, what can I do to demonstrate it?

Evidence viewable here due to issue uploading directly: https://imgur.com/a/rYB4KOf


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