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Hi all,

Please see below driver's first ever NIP. Was not actually trying to speed, was just under the assumption it is a 40 road which obviously isn't going to be an acceptable reason.

Is there any argument to challenge the speed limit if so many people are caught out and there is no benefit to road safety? (Seen a lot of cases online for this tunnel) so this restriction must be setup to catch motorists and generate revenue.

Lastly, what is stopping someone from saying the letter arrived after 14 days? A lot of the recipients' post is delivered to the wrong address with a similar door number.

Thanks
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Metropolitan Police

Date of the offence: - November 2023
Date of the NIP: - 8 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 13 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Limehouse Link Tunnel nr Hertsmere Rd W/B (Entrance) E14 (9994)
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The driver was approaching the tunnel from the Canary Wharf side where the speed limit was 40 and assumed that limit continued as the road layout does not appear to be a 30 road. Driver was doing 35 in the Speedo but NIP states 36. There are signs before entering the tunnel which can be viewed on Google but these were not observed whilst driving. Additionally, the camera was not noticed as it is not yellow.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England
- England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

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Hi,

I finally received an update on this PCN but I believe they've sent it too late?

I made my challenge on 19th July and their email states "Please be advised that the Council have up to 56 days to reply to a formal challenge submitted upon receipt of a Notice to Owner.".

I received the rejection to the challenge on the 6th October.

I've attached the challenge email confirmation and you can find the scan of the rejection letter here: https://1drv.ms/b/s!ApZNM_q_5X8pzi7J4Zc4JoKtGmAB

Since they have replied well after 56 days does that void the PCN?

Thanks in advance

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Hey cp,

I haven't made representation yet. I was waiting for the response on Pepipoo as I haven't been sure of the process.

Hi cp8759,

Thanks for retrieving this resolution.

Unfortuntately I don't live anywhere near this place to go back and measure the distance

From memory (and a look at GSV) I dont think the sign was within 15 meters of the white lines at the junction.

Is there any way to proceed without measuring myself? Can it be requested for the council to measure it?

Thanks

Hi all.

PCN: WA88495191
VRN: K42JOT

I received the following PCN for turning right in Wandsworth, Putney Bridge Road.

GSV 90 Oakhill Rd
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6ZWEwSvmGVUVyUCT9

PCN letter: https://1drv.ms/b/s!ApZNM_q_5X8pzTQGUs75fNfb60fg

I didn't see the signs however I can see they are present on street view. I was simply following Google Maps directions and I was dropping my colleagues home after a long 12 hour day so I was likely distracted chatting.

I don't even understand why turning right is prohibited here, where is the danger?

Are there any grounds to have this cancelled or should I just pay the discounted rate now?

Thanks.