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I finally received a response to my representations from Tower Hamlets after quite a long wait.  I have shared the response below.

The long story short is that Tower Hamlets have cancelled one charge and insisted I pay the other, citing a case of "double jeopardy".  I was satisfied with accepting this rather than draw out the process.  I made the £65 payment today.

I understand that I may have had a case for fighting against it further, but I did want the matter closed.  Thank you for your research that you have shared here, cp8759.  I will note this for any future cases I may have to deal with, and I hope it serves as fightback material for others around London.

Thank you for all of your help!  I am happy with the result.


PS - I don't seem to get email notifications when I receive replies to this topic.....

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Understood!  Thank you for your time!

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Thank you very much for this draft.

You say that the PCN numbers have been very deliberately cited as they have been - but I am confused. TT55449277 concerns the left turn into Coborn Street from Coborn Road and TT55449109 from the other end - from Mile End Road.  You have referred to them the other way around?

Also, I found an advance warning sign on Coborn Road - very easily missed: https://goo.gl/maps/fJpw1iHb7AGxCV9i6

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Does this invalidate the case?

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Thank you for your time on this.  It is interesting you say that the sign to the north end might be contestable (TT55449277) - it is indeed hard to spot the signs from the direction I approached.

Regarding the advance warning sign, I don't know if this will count ("Controlled Zone" sign):
https://goo.gl/maps/XKEZqsfANjU2Aypo9

Here are the orders to revoke from the Traffic Enforcement Centre:

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Do you not think that the "continuing offence" claim is viable?  I am prepared to take the hit on just one of the tickets if there is a simpler case for doing so.

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I received 2 PCNs for driving through a time-restricted pedestrian zone, within 20 minutes of each other. I drove through from the North side, then 20 minutes later, I drove back through from the other way. This street is very close to my home, and my sense of familiarity with the local streets I guess blinded me to the signs. I also just followed my Google Maps navigation (even locals need to use it in London to navigate the no-turning/one-way/restriction jungle)

What hurts and feels unfair is that I get fined twice within 20 minutes, for the same street restriction.  I feel that it is really just one offence.

The other annoying thing is that the restrictions are there to keep the children at the school on this road safe (zone restrictions operate 8.15am to 9.15am, and 3pm to 4pm, Mon-Fri) - on the day of the contravention, the school was closed due to national teacher strikes. Indeed, it was because I had to drop off my kids at a friend's so I could work, that I ended up taking this journey which I would otherwise not make.  I doubt this ground for a case, but you can see the frustration.

If I were to be nit-picky, I would say that the sign to the South end of Coborn Street is very difficult to read before you turn into the street. The Bow Road is a fast road with a lot of traffic and there is a cycling lane that you mustn't block. You have to stop to read the sign. Coupled with the double red lines at the mouth of the street in front of the sign that means "no stopping", you are forced to contravene traffic rules one way or another if you don't have prior knowledge.

I would be willing to take the hit on one of the tickets, but I don't think it is fair to pay the fine for the second offence. I have read posts on pepipoo about "continuing offence" and I wondered if this would apply here?

I would appreciate any further advice if I had a fair chance of success. I appreciate all that you guys on this forum do.

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Note that these PCNs were re-issued as I didn't receive the original ones and had the Charge Certificate and Order for Recovery cancelled, hence the long delay between contravention date and Date of Notice. I followed the advice of a good post on these forums and followed this process:
https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/unde...rcement-process

Copy of PCN 1:
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Street View Coborn Street (North-West end):
https://goo.gl/maps/ELXZ1zZQBDREyKse9


Copy of PCN 2:
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Junction Street View Coborn Street (South end):
https://goo.gl/maps/gtc8u5VjuZYsQahm7

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