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This is only here for future victims:

I have had good advice from https://www.dealingwithbailiffs.co.uk/

Not sure everyone on here is truly out to help you.

Jason at the above website has been very good.

Unsubscribed.

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Sword =====================
Outer door

- dead bolt lock
- latch lock
- chain
- cctv camera
Inner door
- dead bolt lock
- cctv camera
Inside the house
- lounge room door => 2 x padlocks
- bedroom 1 door => 2 x padlocks
- bedroom 2 door => 2 x padlocks

Got the cameras etc off marketplace for £50.
Luckily I worked as a carpenter for a bit so this is all gonna be donkey work over the weekend.

We will not be the low hanging fruit.

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I am doing the pen and the sword approach.

Pen:

For each PCN please find out
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
- what address the order was issued to?
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?


BS50752338
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
29/8/23
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no


BS51402664
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
27/7/23
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS51463733
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
13/10/23
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS52018394
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
14/12/23
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS53084361
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
9/2/24

- what address the order was issued to?

- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?

BS53139805
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
9/2/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS53259862
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
23/2/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS53986109
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
15/3/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS54026076
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
15/3/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS54238314
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
21/3/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS54977952
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
30/4/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS55325560
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
23/5/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS55354547
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
29/5/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS55784149
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
21/6/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS55838372
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
24/6/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS55922887
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
27/6/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS56219387
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
10/7/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS56853779
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
23/7/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS56884477
- the date the order was issued by the TEC?
25/7/24
- what address the order was issued to?
previous address in Folkestone
- whether the order was re-issued with a new address and when?
no

BS58279685
no order yet

BS58312361
no order yet

BS58997667
no order yet

BS59024227
no order yet

BS59288706
no order yet

BS59670050
no order yet

BS59707365
no order yet

BS59951220
no order yet

online appeal lodged challenging validity of CAZ re adding subsequent charges:
BS60086527

Will be filling in TE9 and TE7 forms for all the above. Not hopeful but it will slow things down and give me time to get more advice and some help with harassment if needed. Luckily we have an Anarchist group just round the corner. They love this kind of stuff ;)

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Date: 30/07/2024
Parking Services (PCN Appeals),
PO Box 3399,
Bristol City Council,
Bristol, BS1 9NE.

To whom it may concern,

Regarding these PCNs:

....


On 25/07/2024, out of the blue I received Notices of Enforcement in respect of four PCNs, nos. BS54238314, BS53986109, BS52018394, BS54026076 for CAZ infringements.

Thankfully your agent has given me until 9 August to pay in each case and this breathing space has allowed me to find out what these are all about and what procedures apply.

As you will see from the list of PCNs above, 28 in total, it appears that my car has been driven into your Clean Air Zone area by different drivers between 18/12/22 and 18/05/24 accumulating over £5000 in penalties with potentially over £8000 (no. PCNs x £310) more in fees to be added by your enforcement agents.

These actions have not been carried out deliberately but because the car in question is not subject to CAZ charges in Bath, where I often visit, nor any other CAZ in the country. I therefor not unreasonably was under the impression that my car was treated similarly in the Bristol CAZ zone.

But as you might reason, to enter and not pay over such an extended period must surely be a positive act because I can see that you sent PCNs smartly after each occurrence and therefore the registered keeper must have known.

But I didn't. And I didn't because when I last changed my address I forgot to update my V5C, instead thinking that updating my driver's licence would be sufficient.

Over £5000 of penalties and fees has brought home to me the error of my ways. However, I would ask the authority to agree that to penalise a registered keeper to this extent is disproportionate. I am reaching out to you in this way to avoid placing the burden of more than 20 Out of Time submissions on the Traffic Enforcement Centre and similarly the authority by way of their response. I also understand that although the diligence of your agent has given them my current address, it is possible that many, if not all, of the warrants give my historical V5C address and would therefore need to be amended through the court process.

I would also note that creditors must not issue a warrant knowing that the debtor is not at the address, as a means of tracing the debtor at no cost (Paragraph 12):

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/353396/taking-control-of-goods-national-standards.pdf

I am sending this letter by email as well as recorded post in an endeavour to begin a speedy dialogue with the council regarding an outcome which suits the circumstances and is fair to all concerned.

Yours faithfully,

....

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I have online submitted and registered posted a letter based on HC kind contribution and other helpful comments in this thread to Bristol CC asking them to take on a view on the situation.

Other than that I don't have any other option.

When I mention judo etc. I am just referring to the fact these bailiff types from what I have seen, are invariably 55, male, overweight, grumpy. They probably get decent results out of intimidating single mums and other vulnerable people. The one I saw come to the door for a previous tenants immediately stood back into the footpath once I filled up the door. I'm not trying to make myself out to be all tough, just that these bailiff types are pretty cowardly and from what I can tell aren't very confident when they come up against someone who can stand their ground.

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I am selling the car this weekend to my friend.

We are looking for somewhere to move to, were planning to move anyway.

Gonna stick to the "tough it out" plan.

I will post back in 6 months to update.

Thanks all for your advice.

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I don't have that money, we are just a normal family.
The penalty is so out of wack with the crime - forgetting to chase up a V5c update during the pandemic. I have my back up now and happy to fight these people.

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Looked into things full today.
Had a heart attack when I realized I actually have 27 outstanding caz charges (if you don't know you don't know).

I then spent all day reading around traffic law.

I also got some really good advice, support and options from Jason and Sheila:

nationalbailiffadvice.uk
jasonbennison.com
Jason Bennison
07988 226 048

bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
Sheila
01643 841 886

Basically, my car is 20 years old, rusty, has dints, worth £500. It will probably die in the next 6 months (gears getting a bit clunky).

We are gonna tough this one out:
- I have moved my car to a friend's house driveway.
- I am a pretty big guy, did judo as a child, boxing as teenager, I play football and do some upper body.
- I have had bailiffs come round before looking for previous tennants, I know what they look like.
- We will not be opening the door to anyone.


Wish us luck...

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Thanks Enceladus, very kind of you to give me guidance - I will get onto all the phone calls first thing Monday morning and post here with the information I gather from your questions.

I will also call (I previously messaged) Bailiff Advice Online on Monday morning.

Don't know what the car is worth, but not much, maybe only as little as £500 for a quick sale.

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Why would you want to submit the TE7 - which is the key document - because you posted: I will contact Bailiff Advice Online for help submitting Witness Statements with Out of Time applications.


Thanks for your responses H C - I have contacted Bailiff Advice Online, but haven't heard back yet, so I am trying to keep ahead of things and prepare for all eventualities.

If you submit your TE7 with nothing more than 'I didn't receive...' then be prepared to fail.

H C, you are obviously experienced in this area - could you kindly offer suggestions of how to make a TE7 more likely to succeed?


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I have enquired about the regulations that permit the establishment of a payment plan to stop the enforcement. I will provide this information as soon as I have confirmed the specifics.

Thank you Pressman, that is very kind of you to take the time.

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The main part I am not sure about is the top of TE9 form:
https://imgur.com/a/MCvjVR5

I have read that as I haven't received info / PCN, I should fill these fields with "UNKNOWN" (apart from "Penalty Charge No.", which I have from the Bailiff letter).

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I am reading up on filling out the TE7 and TE9 forms.
I have my proof of current address ready.

On Monday I will be speaking to these people to check I have the right forms and the correct/best way to fill them in:
# Bristol Clean Air Zone
0117 903 6385

# Traffic Enforcement Center NN1 2LH
Telephone:   0300 123 1059

# Citizens Advice Bristol
48 Fairfax Street, Bristol, BS1 3BL
0808 278 7957

# Stop the Bailiffs Jason Bennison
https://stopthebailiffs.uk/appeal-traffic-debt-parking-fine-after-bailiffs-statutory-declaration-out-of-time-witness-statement.html
22 Wenlock Road, London N1 7GU
07988 226048
jasonbennison1(at)gmail.com
Jason Bennison. Practitioner in Civil Enforcement (Bailiffs) Restitution.

# Marston (Bailiff)
0333 3201822

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Yes the notice of enforcement letters are addressed to my current address - my current address is printed at the top of each of the NoE letters (redacted with a black rectangle by myself).
I need to go find the envelope...

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