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pcn: GX36030848
vrm: DS20KCF

Didn't see the signs, I know it's not much of an argument.

I have seen other posts regarding this https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tower-hamlets-code-50r-no-right-turn-mile-end-road-sw-bound-jw-bancroft-road/ and the sticky about

Didn't see the signs, I know it's not much of an argument.

I have seen other posts regarding this https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tower-hamlets-code-50r-no-right-turn-mile-end-road-sw-bound-jw-bancroft-road/ and the sticky https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-red-route-postal-pcns/ to msg directly but the thread later says to create a post.

PCN: AF12555886
VRM: EN72WYS

Location: Chadwick Road
From: 20:10 to 20:11
Date: 16/01/2026

I am already at tribunal stage. I have the rejection for the NTO and windscreen PCN but cannot locate my challenges or the NTO.

What happened was, I parked on a double yellow with my wife. Although a blue badge holder, I did not realise there were curb restrictions also. My wife 2 days prior was given a prognosis of months following progression of her cancer at age 30. We decided to go out for a meal and so i parked nearby as her mobility is very poor and requires a wheelchair. Not saying this allows us to park there, but I didn't think at the time with faffing around with the wheelchair and general situation. This was my challenge.

It was rejected. In my NTO challenge, I stated that the windscreen PCN do not properly conform to regulation 9 penalty charge notice requirements, https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/576/regulation/3, 3(1)(c): that if a notice to owner is served despite the representations mentioned in sub-paragraph (b), representations against the penalty charge must be made to the enforcement authority in the form and manner and at the time specified in the notice to owner. The pcn says:

"If the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which this penalty charge notice was served, a notice to owner may be served by the enforcement authority on the owner of the vehicle. A person whom a notice to owner is served will be entitled to make representations to the enforcement authority against the penalty charge and may appeal to an adjudicator if those representations are rejected.

Once a notice to owner has been served, representations must be made in the form, manner, and time specified on the notice to owner."

This was also rejected, stating the wording is there. I am not sure I agree that the PCN contains the wording "despite representations mentioned in sub-paragraph (b)" (I know it doesn't need to be exactly that but something along those lines).

I am correct or wrong here?


Another issue I have seen is I cannot access the ticket details via Redbridge which includes the photographic evidence. For the tribunal case, there is nothing uploaded yet as the tribunal is in December.

https://imgpile.com/p/vcfVjwV

@iispartan have a look at the decisions in rows 740 to 746 here.

Can you clarify the rows please? Maybe the ticket numbers would be useful.

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What was the outcome of this PCN?

Finally some update but really need some advice.

They sent the order of recovery for 3 of them.

I submitted TE9 forms but it was rejected as I apparently need to send PE2 and pe3 forms which require a witness from a solicitor or officer of the court!

Why these forms instead of the TE9? This is very time consuming and solicitors are asking for £15 per form.

And my uncle is out of the country! We're already past the 21 day mark for one of the tickets.

PCN: KW35548833
Reg: DE61CYH
Date of contravention: 24/03/2025

Friend forgot to pay CAZ fee and received a PCN. He appealed (no real grounds to be honest) and it was rejected.

A bit annoying with Birmingham but they do not pause the discount period. My friend received the rejection on 09/04, but it went to spam and he didn't see it until 10/04. 09/04 was the last day to pay the discounted. He also received the physical letter on 13/04.

He gave enforcement team a ring who said to appeal again and attach evidence that it was in spam.

This was rejected again but the reasons just cited the same as before, and made no reference to the email going to spam or that he was advised by the enforcement team to re appeal.

Since they won't re-offer the discount he is taking it to tribunal.

His defense is quite weak, not much to go on, but I am wondering if ignoring the second appeal and the fact the enforcement team advised him to do the re-appeal will help? I mean he'd be fine to pay the discount at least.

I don't think this is consistent advice.

When I had the same issue with LBBD, it just showed as unable to pay rather than increase the fine by £10.

Additionally with the Wandsworth charge it says it will increase by £8.

I don't think it is reasonable that I should be checking every day/week for the foreseeable future until they decide to register the charge.

Is there no time limit for them to register it? I mean if not then fine I can't do anything.

England

I am insured on my mum's car. I received a NIP, specifically in my name, but I was not the driver at the time (it was my brother who is also insured) nor am I the RK.

I don't see why this is being sent to me and not the RK? Is this even valid?

My uncle recevied another letter (he had been away so only seeing it now): https://ibb.co/3mHy4NQt.

It is concerning that the previous letter from Wandsworth gave 28 days from Jan 16th to make payment but then this recovery letter is dated on Jan 21st. On the payment for the pcn, it still shows as £65.