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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Leeds City Council code 27 Parked adjacent to a dropped footway, West Street, Morley, Leeds
« on: July 30, 2024, 10:30:01 pm »
Well, if nothing else, it goes to show it is possible!

Thanks once again for your help. A small burden was lifted.  :)

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Leeds City Council code 27 Parked adjacent to a dropped footway, West Street, Morley, Leeds
« on: July 26, 2024, 07:23:41 pm »
Update on the above: ticket cancelled! Although it was slightly ambiguous they seemed to agree it wasn't on a dropped kerb. Imagine if it was always that easy...

Thanks for the help again 🙂

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Leeds City Council code 27 Parked adjacent to a dropped footway, West Street, Morley, Leeds
« on: July 14, 2024, 05:53:48 pm »
Hi Incandescent,

Many thanks indeed for the above.

It is eye opening indeed! No wonder people train for years to get accustomed with all the idiosyncrasies of the legal system!

I have submitted the appeal using your wording.

I'm doubtful it will be that easy as you say but I'm more than happy to respond to pettiness with more pettiness!

I will let you know of the response.

Many thanks again for your time.

Best wishes,
Mike.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Leeds City Council code 27 Parked adjacent to a dropped footway, West Street, Morley, Leeds
« on: July 13, 2024, 06:57:20 pm »
Thanks for the reply.

Sure - I acknowledge that this can be used by pedestrians also but fail to see how I was impeding on pedestrian/wheelchairs etc. ability to use the dropped kerb.

While you say I was over the sloped section I disagree - at best it's only very slightly over it. The photos make it difficult to see but I believe I was quite literally at the very end of the section of sloped kerb, and this warden is nit-picking.

Nevertheless how should I go about making my case for the adjudicator as you describe? Is there any case law?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Leeds City Council code 27 Parked adjacent to a dropped footway, West Street, Morley, Leeds
« on: July 13, 2024, 02:36:11 pm »
Good afternoon,

Earlier this week I received the following PCN.

I'm struggling to see where the contravention even occurred especially given this particular lowered footway is not for providing vehicular access and no part of my car was near even the sloped part of the kerb let alone the dropped section itself?

Usually I would park on the opposite side of the road fully on the carriageway outside my flat but occasionally have to park here if there's no parking available, and park it as far forward as possible (hence it being close to the dropped footway) so it's in sight from my closest window as I've had two cars stolen from my road.

I parked it here when I got back late the other night and use the sloped footway to reverse onto that part of the road and assumed there was sufficient clearance; at the time I wasn't thinking about the parking warden's apparent pedantry!

I actually measured the height above the road of that part of the kerb over which the bumper was hanging and it was very marginal with regards to it being a 'dropped' kerb.

This morning I saw a car round here which had been in an accident parked (admittedly awkwardly), also with a PCN on the windscreen which I'm sure the owner will be doubly chuffed about, so the wardens round here are clearly very averse to the use of sensible discretion...

I will begrudgingly pay this if I'm in breach of any regulations (and naively hope it might go towards fixing some of the crater-like potholes around Leeds that almost constitute dropped kerbs themselves), but what does 'adjacent to a dropped footway' actually mean?

If there is any potential appeal case, what legislation should I refer to?

Google Street View: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qhsoAEJrg66LEWDF6 (notice the silver Corsa... one has to wonder why if it's such a problem no restriction lines have been painted...)













Many thanks in advance for all your help!  :)


Mike.

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