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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Hammersmith & Fulham 19U Parking in residents space after the expiry of paid time

« on: July 08, 2024, 09:23:34 am »

Thanks for that, we'll wait for the notice to owner and come back to you. Just playing around on google maps I notice back in 2017 (link below) on the same road they had a different sign format which I actually think was clearer. Back then they didn't have phone parking so I suspect they updated the signs to add that information changing the format at that same time.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/USjuYNnJ8b3wxX867

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Hammersmith & Fulham 19U Parking in residents space after the expiry of paid time

« on: July 06, 2024, 05:06:37 pm »

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pEutPpVXgz_Ron0flJasHLijnFuHZBHP?usp=sharing

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7xiFMWknaWbFT7X9A

Confusing signage. Ringo parking until it automatically stopped at 6.30pm only to get a ticket as it then became resident only for (a somewhat strange period) 6.30pm-8pm. The way the sign sets out resident parking 9am-8pm OR 9am-630pm pay at machine, you're lulled into thinking its ok if you pay through 6.30 vs it explicitly saying it then becomes resident only so you need to move on. CEO was certainly quick to issue the ticket 18:47 so probably something that happens frequently.

Been through a couple of Council appeals (attached) so its a case of whether we take further but then the discount will be lost and the charge increase from £40 to £80.

Thanks in advance for any pointers

Best Will

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Hammersmith & Fulham PCN - Barclay Road - Misleading sign - Parked in a resident zone

« on: July 04, 2024, 01:45:25 pm »

What was the outcome of this, we encountered a similar issue with Hammersmith & Fulham on Seagrave Road. Confusing signage saying '9am-8pm Permit Holders OR 8am-6.30pm pay by phone/machine'. We did the latter but got PCN when leaving at 7pm. It was the use of the conjunctive 'OR' that threw us; we just interpreted the 'OR' as paid was OK until 6.30pm after which it would be free vs interpretting the period 6.30-8pm actually being resident only. We've appealed but the council argue their signage is clear enough.