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If you could represent me I would that would be great, if you could let me know what you need and what I need to do I would be grateful.
Thank you

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can you share what you wrote when you went to the london tribunal? or is there a case number that allows documents to be reviewed online?
I'm going to challenge both PCNs and go to the london tribunal

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so you think try and challenge both at the london tribunal? I won't hold you to it, i just feel like its really unclear and i should give it a go. using the other case file to assist in my argument

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I am writing to challenge the PCN ZY09452368
I was travelling on the westbound approach of Leahurst Road on my way to work at Lewisham Hospital. Ordinarily this is not a route that I would ever take when travelling to work at the hospital, but on the day I made my journey the south circular had severe tail backs due to road works, and all roads were blocked and traffic was at a standstill.
When I received the PCN I didn’t understand why I had received one and at which point in my journey, so I had to revisit the site to take pictures, which I have attached.
As I approached the area in question I was unaware of there being any restrictions on the westbound side of the road. The road layout is as such that there is only one blue sign present 50 yards from the junction, on the far right hand side of the road on the far edge of the pavement, adjacent to parking bays. It is not clear that drivers on the west bound approach are impacted, furthermore I’m not sure why this sign is not on the left hand side of the road so impacted drivers are immediately aware. Given the sign is on the opposite side of the road, drivers have no opportunity to firstly understand that there is a restriction and secondly and rather dangerously have the chance to amend their route so they do not incur a fine.
The only other warning presents itself on the actual traffic island when it is too late to reverse or amend your route hence unwittingly entering the prohibited route. 
I have worked at Lewisham Hospital for over 10 years, I have a permit with Lewisham council which can be referenced as proof that I do work for Lewisham Trust XXXX. I have never received a PCN and the fact that I received two in two days on this exact same road (PCN ZY ZY09462485) demonstrates that the current signage is woefully inadequate and misleading, it is not clear from the outset what the restriction is.
I would like my challenge to be reviewed because this was issued unfairly and unjustly.


Hope i haven't provided and inadequate response but this it what I sent for the challenge

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Thank you, i will read the file and think about what to do, I challenged both but both got rejected so I may pay one but go to the london tribunal for the second and say it was disproportionate and I paid the first and have now changed my route once i realised the issue.

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That is exactly the situation, the blue warning is on the other side of the road and then you pass the point of no return and there is nothing you can do. However my situation is probably made worse by the fact i did the same thing in two days which probably counts against me. Not sure what to do with this whether to maybe pay one at £65 and challenge the second.

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Still from the PCN video, I'm not sure how to upload the actual video. The stills are exactly the same for both days.

Logged in and I have until the 28th July to pay the reduced amount should I wish, assume the second one is two days after.

Never had to do this so have a high element of nervousness so need sound advice hence reaching out on here.

Thank you




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Thank you for your fast reply very much appreciated.

I attach the street shots which i did supply with my challenge, hopefully they make sense but please say if not.



I will try and get the footage attached from the PCN

Regarding the dates I received the first PCN on a Tuesday and the second was on a Thursday in the same week, I received the first notice the week after and immediately knew that a second was on its way once i received the first.

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I received 2 PCNs in the same week as I travelled to work at Lewisham Hospital.
I usually travel on the major roads into work but that particular week the south circular was causing major tailbacks and all roads were blocked so I used the Leahurst Westbound approach. I wasn't aware of the westbound restriction and the signage did not alert my attention to the potential issue, given so many other roads in the surrounding area do alert you to any potential violations. I was issued with 2 PCN’s having travelled on the same stretch of road twice that week thank god I did get a fine after that otherwise it would have been a higher number of PCNs.
I appealed using some of the advice I found on this website, but both appeals have been rejected. I can either pay the £130, or challenge it further but face the prospect that it could go up to £260, a gamble I can ill afford. I really need some advice or where to go with this, am I wasting my time? I have revisited the signage and its incredibly poor and not clear. It also baffles me why one side allows cars and the other side does not given my return journey involves me travelling via the eastbound stretch.
I would very much appreciate some advice on what my options are with an appeal given its really stressing me out. Thank you!
original PCN one of them but its effectively the same times 2
rejection letter 1  
rejection letter 2

if any of the documents postings are out of sync please let me know, ive never used the platform below so i'm having issues

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I received a 52M contravention whilst travelling on leahurst on my way to lewisham hospital. The only reason I drove on leahurst was because of the awful south circular tailbacks.
I was annoyed to get a PCN given I really pay attention to signs and get really nervous when driving into lewisham.
I have been following the threads and wanted to know if anyone had successfully appealed, £65 is outrageous to pay but the signage is poor and I don't want to have to pay the money just because i fear the outcome.
Advice would be appreciated where you have been successful and points that were used. My PCN is the same as everyone else's

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