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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Redbridge Council PCN/Ringo
« on: November 01, 2025, 04:03:21 pm »
Hi Stamford! Thanks and I think I owe you another thanks previously when the 'has an offence actually been committed if the first hour is free regardless' worked in my favour.

You seem to be suggesting to go down that route again which sounds good with me!  Any such rule regarding an 'observation Period'  i.e the warden cant just slap a ticket on but has to wait a period of time to see if the session is processing,  to confirm this is exactly what has happened,  12:57 the session has gone through on Ringo but warden has slapped the ticket on at 12:54 and stated observed between 12:54 and 12:54.

Thanks appreciate will need to keep the car in sight at all times when registering sessions going forward.

Think you are suggesting attack on the hour being free regardless and didn't stay longer than the hour?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Redbridge Council PCN/Ringo
« on: November 01, 2025, 02:44:38 pm »
AF11888555- I have always left the vehicle before starting a session since the beginning of time, I like to go over to the post on the pavement to check the location number so I don't make any mistakes, I then walk on to attend whatever I am doing post typing the location code in,

Any run in challenging on the basis of grace period and if not a grace period then an 'observation period' i.e the from and to times shouldn't be the same, ample time should be given to pay for the session e.t.c?

Thanks Stamford appreciate it

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Redbridge Council PCN/Ringo
« on: October 31, 2025, 07:16:24 pm »
Thanks Stamford

Struggling with upload but format as follows

PCN
DATE
REG
MAKE
Was seen in location  from 12:54 to 12:54

On 31/10/2025

by civil enforcement officer no xxxxxx   who has reasonable cause to believe that the following parking contravention had occured

parked without payment of the parking charge

CONTRAVENTION CODE 11U




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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Redbridge Council PCN/Ringo
« on: October 31, 2025, 04:54:06 pm »
Found the previous case now, if anybody has any advice regarding grace periods in terms of starting Ringo sessions once you park up and then get out of the car, time to look up at the road signs for location codes type into the app etc.   would be really appreciative.

Thanks

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Redbridge Council PCN/Ringo
« on: October 31, 2025, 04:36:02 pm »
Happy Halloween everyone, sorry to have to ask but I don't know how to search, I am looking for a Redbridge council previous case whereby the appellant successfully argued that no contravention had occurred if they hadn't parked for more than one hour regardless of the fact they hadn't registered on Ringo.

In addition is there any grace period in terms of registering a Ringo Session, got a PCN today times at 12:54, My Ringo session started at 12:57, i literally must have been on the other side of the road punching the location number in off the sigh whilst the ticket was being issued.

Thanks in advance one and all.





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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London Tribunal Strong Reccomendation To Cancel Ticket
« on: December 17, 2024, 07:24:57 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on December 17, 2024, 05:51:04 pm
I naively thought a recommendation would be accepted but this is Redbridge (and given the contravention was not paying a free charge, the adjudicator could have allowed it despite the extra time taken).

My Anderson has given you a forensic enquiry.

See this about what Redbridge is like - worse than Newham now:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/'redbridge-council-bullies-and-cowards'

Thanks Stamford, saying that the adjudicator could have allowed it enrages me further, I thought he was decent chap, maybe a  bit of a stickler for the law to the letter,  maybe just paid lip service to the mitigating circumstances despite photographic evidence and screenshots being provided at every turn and I did have to point this out again when summing up at the end.

Not sure what more I could have done, he even suggested that I could have parked elsewhere to which I politely reminded that such a parking scheme existed for miles around the same location.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London Tribunal Strong Reccomendation To Cancel Ticket
« on: December 17, 2024, 01:02:58 pm »
Much appreciated will do as you suggest Thank you

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London Tribunal Strong Reccomendation To Cancel Ticket
« on: December 17, 2024, 12:38:03 pm »
Quote from: H C Andersen on December 17, 2024, 10:48:14 am
Thanks.

Appeal decision: Appeal refused with recommendation.

Recommendation: 'cancel the Penalty Charge Notice'.

Unfortunately, the authority are entitled to reject any recommendation and don't have to justify their decision to the adjudicator.

Pl post what they've sent.

The 14-day period for challenging the adjudicator's decision by way of seeking a review(on limited and specified grounds) has also passed so I can't see any hope through the formal process.

But we should see what was sent to you.

'the next working day I had a letter from the Local Authority saying that they wouldn't be cancelling the PCN despite the recommendation.'. The parallel route is to establish who(as in officer) considered the recommendation, whether they had been involved in this case previously(and therefore looking at the matter afresh), whether they were authorised under the council's constitution and scheme of delegation and whether the rejection was consistent with council policy.

And this starts with your email.


Sorry HC - Unsure if you are suggesting I follow this course of action, the problem I have of course is that the time frame to pay the penalty starts to escalate very shortly and my experience of dealing with the authorities parking  email address is that they take an absolute age to reply presumably due to the volume of email traffic they deal with.

Thanks again

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London Tribunal Strong Reccomendation To Cancel Ticket
« on: December 17, 2024, 11:07:38 am »
Thanks for the replies, appreciated, hopefully the attached will give rise to a technicality, seems very standard blurb and non descriptive.



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London Tribunal Strong Reccomendation To Cancel Ticket
« on: December 17, 2024, 10:30:48 am »
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / London Tribunal Strong Reccomendation To Cancel Ticket
« on: December 17, 2024, 10:24:00 am »
Greetings All,

At my appeal London Tribunals made a 'strong recommendation' to the Local Authority to cancel my PCN, the next working day I had a letter from the Local Authority saying that they wouldn't be cancelling the PCN despite the recommendation.  I tried to ask my local councillor to get involved but that yielded nothing.

Have I got any further recourse to anybody or should I pay the PCN, how can it be possibly right that a Tribunal can make a recommendation and the Local Authority dismisses it within 5 minutes, just makes a mockery of the system.

Before I just pay up would be grateful for any peals of wisdom anybody might have.

Thanks All

   


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