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Thank you and understood.

Can I ask if you would say that the Letter 2 I drafted is suitable to send in reply to the second letter received?

I will, of course, respond and complete the NIP form on the first letter (Letter 1).

Thank you for the feedback.

I would appreciate if you can check the steps, and appropriateness of the letter 2:


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Response to Letter 1 - I will fill out the s172 form and provide evidence of the insurance.


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Response to Letter 2 -

Date: XX June 2024

Dear Ms Bayliss,


Reference: [Add reference]

Alleged offence involving vehicle [to be added here]

1. The name of the driver at the date/time of the alleged offence mentioned above is: [Full Name]
   
2. The address of the driver at the date/time of the alleged offence named above is: [Full Address and Postcode]

The driver named above was insured to drive the vehicle at the time of the alleged offence (enclosed insurance confirmation).


Kind regards,
[Name]

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There have been some developments

Last week, I received a letter (Letter 1) regarding NIP information supplied, stating there was suspicion that the information was false or deliberately misleading. The s172 form was on the reverse of the letter, offering the opportunity to update the information initially supplied. Note, I did not initially complete the NIP. I was about to return this recorded delivery today when I received Letter 2, about a different NIP, with a name stated in the letter this time. On reviewing the date and time, to the best of my knowledge, my son was driving the car. At the time of the alleged offense, I was at work, and if required, can provide evidence to that effect.

Now, I do not want to make any allegations about my son which I cannot factually corroborate, but I can infer that he was the driver. That aside, I do not want to throw him under the bus, but I know that I was not the driver (and did not supply the name repeated in the letter). However, I digress.

I would like to abide by my legal duty to inform the Police of the driver, my son. However, I would like to do so without incriminating my son for matters which I may be inferring but not have knowledge of.

At this stage, I would like to do the following:

1. Respond to Letter 1 with the driver’s name and insurance to confirm. I have evidence from my own driving log (within the trips app as part of the car’s software) that will show I was not driving the car (I was driving my own car) and was at work during the time of the offense.

2. Respond to Letter 2 and provide the name and address of the driver. “To the best of my recollection and from checking my own records, I believe the driver of the vehicle at the time and date in this letter was [Name and Address] and is the policyholder Ref: [add this for the policy] for fully comprehensive insurance for the vehicle. Again, I can evidence that I was not driving the car at this time.

I cannot attached the letters as there is no space.

Can you assist in any way shape or form?

Thank you 666 and Andy_Foster.

I will send the form back with the information they have requested, i.e., the driver name and the insurance evidence. Coincidentally, I only have an email copy stating that the car is insured, with the policy number, main driver, and named driver. I/he didn’t have the insurance certificate (when I asked for it).

While I may suspect that my son has been up to no good, I do not have proof of this. As Andy_Foster said, I do not want to throw him under the bus at this stage, especially since I have not been asked for my opinion on this point.

Thankfully, I am no longer the registered keeper of the vehicle, which is also no longer in my son’s ownership (it was written off two days after the alleged speeding offence took place overnight on a residential street; hit and run - my son was in bed and saw the wreckage when he woke in the morning trying to use the car to get work!).

From my reading on this forum, the location of the alleged offense seems to be a very popular spot for speeding - 35 mph in a 30 mph zone on the A40, London W12.

Again, thanks for sharing your wisdom.

Hi there, I hope you can help …
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Yesterday, I received a letter from Camera Processing Services, Met Prosecutions, P.O. Box 510, DA15 0BQ. The letter referred to a Notice of Intended Prosecution return that had been submitted. Before I continue, I must disclose that I was not aware of any such letter. In fact, my 23-year-old son, who lives at the same address, is the owner of the vehicle and resides with me.

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The letter states that their checks suggest the information on the NIP was false and misleading. They are offering me the opportunity to reconsider the initial response I provided. If I wish to change the information provided, I should complete the NIP form overleaf, sign it, and provide evidence that the driver had insurance to drive the car in the form of an insurance certificate.

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I am the registered keeper and owner of another vehicle, but I do not drive the vehicle in question. However, I am a named driver on the insurance. To the best of my knowledge, the only person who could have been driving is my son, as he is the legal owner (with my name as the Registered Keeper due to me financing the vehicle for him). Incidentally, the car was written off as an insurance write-off, and he no longer owns it.

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By responding to the letter with the driver information, am I indirectly agreeing that I supplied false driver information? I did not provide any driver details initially.

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I have completed the NIP form on the reverse of the letter and will send evidence of insurance along with my son’s details.

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I have read on other forums that I should send a covering letter; however, this is not requested in the letter. It states that if I am providing a different name than that provided previously, I should provide evidence that they were insured to drive the vehicle. I suspect, without any evidence, that the initial letter may have been intercepted, but cannot prove this. I have not discussed the matter with my son, except for informing him that I am providing his details to the police following an NIP letter and asking him to share an email confirming his insurance to drive the vehicle.