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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: September 10, 2024, 06:29:34 pm »
Thank you once again @Hippocrates for your hard work and the favourable outcome. You are a genius.

Thanks everyone for the assistance as well.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: July 17, 2024, 11:56:03 am »
Quote from: Hippocrates on July 16, 2024, 06:48:13 pm
Tribunal time. NOR also does not state the adjudicator may extend time. Drop me a PM if you want me to represent you. Total failure to consider the issue as highlighted.

Thank you. Will do.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: July 16, 2024, 01:15:00 pm »
Yes, I did send exactly what @Hippocrates has mentioned.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: July 16, 2024, 12:04:31 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on June 17, 2024, 09:46:00 am
Ah ah! The last bulleted ground is, ironically, invalid. This ground is not afforded in this legislation. I would make a collateral challenge on this as it causes confusion.

As per their directions on the PCN:

Dear Havering

Ref: PCN                          VRM

I make this formal representation against the said PCN:

The PCN is unenforceable because it contains a ground referring to the traffic order being invalid which does not belong in this legislation. Therefore, please cancel it forthwith.

Yours faithfully


etc etc.

****

(Yet another council which cannot simply copy and paste. They had major problems with their bus lane PCNs until recently.)
I  am more than happy to represent if this goes the full distance. Let's see what their response will be.

My challenge has been rejected. Here is the link to the letter from Havering Council

https://imgur.com/a/9NVqHks

Please let me know what I can do now.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: June 17, 2024, 11:34:34 am »
Thank you so much @Hippocrates. This is very helpful. I will go ahead and challenge this as per your instruction.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: June 17, 2024, 09:25:42 am »
Hi, here is the link to the whole PCN

https://imgur.com/a/koDHnQv

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: June 16, 2024, 12:48:27 pm »
Thank you. Any advice please

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: June 16, 2024, 12:00:55 am »
Hi,

I have provided access to the video now.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / London borough of Havering - 31J PCN entering and stopping in box junction - PCN - Main Road/Upper Brentwood Road
« on: June 15, 2024, 11:06:41 pm »
Hi,

I am seeking some assistance and guidance regarding the PCN from the London borough of Havering for an alleged traffic contravention 31J: entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited.

The alleged contravention happened on the 29th May, and the notice was issued on 13th June which I received today.

Here is the link to the PCN. https://imgur.com/a/dZTdQ5v

Here is the video https://drive.google.com/file/d/17B_3mOFQnngn4Tad0qVcIRMnlc5QmBrr/view?usp=drive_link.

Here's the Google street view link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GPLzRJZji6ZxXxp46

As you can see from the video, I was crossing the yellow box and the traffic in the front stopped. Since I could not go forward, I tried to reverse but had to stop within the box itself as the traffic behind me came to a standstill due to the traffic lights. I could only restart after the traffic in front of me cleared.

I would like to understand if it makes sense to challenge this, and if yes, how must I phrase my representation?

Many thanks for your assistance.

Kind regards
Smitha

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