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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Caught speeding Merseyside
« on: June 13, 2024, 07:39:02 pm »
I never typed it out, I somehow managed to highlight the text from a picture and copy that. Seeing as I have no idea how to reduce image size on an iPhone I thought it was the next best thing.
Long story short, this isn’t my fine. It’s my partners who I am trying to help out but I’m currently away with work. I’m relaying what she is telling me. I know the v5 is correct as I’ve seen that. It is an NIP that she received through the post on 10/06 but offence date is 11/05. Is there grounds to fight this? By the sounds of it, Merseyside police messed up and originally sent the NIP to the wrong address.
Long story short, this isn’t my fine. It’s my partners who I am trying to help out but I’m currently away with work. I’m relaying what she is telling me. I know the v5 is correct as I’ve seen that. It is an NIP that she received through the post on 10/06 but offence date is 11/05. Is there grounds to fight this? By the sounds of it, Merseyside police messed up and originally sent the NIP to the wrong address.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Caught speeding Merseyside
« on: June 13, 2024, 07:06:22 pm »
It was when I logged into the link to check photos.
I tried uploading the image but the size was too big and I’m terrible with technology.
I tried uploading the image but the size was too big and I’m terrible with technology.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Caught speeding Merseyside
« on: June 13, 2024, 06:28:23 pm »
VEHICLE RE
In accordance with Section 1 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 l hereby give you notice that it is intended to take proceedings against the driver of the above motor vehicle, a PEUGEOT, recorded speed 63, time into red light 0, for the alleged offence of Exceed a 50mph speed restriction on a special road / motorway - automatic camera device at 11:11 on 11/05/2024 at M62 (Westbound), Liverpool, Merseyside.
To view images on the offence or for further information for this offence, please log into the online portal using the PIN provided above at www.merseysidepas.co.uk You may also admit to being the driver or nominate another driver, new keeper or hirer by visiting the online portal.
REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION UNDER SECTION 172 OF THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACT 1988
• Under Section 172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 the person who keeps the vehicle is hereby required to supply details of the person they believe was driving the vehicle on the above occasion within 28 days. Anyone else, and any keeper who claims to be unable to identify the driver, is hereby required to supply any information it is in their power to give, which may lead to the driver's identification.
• If you claim to be unable to identify the driver and / or the information you do have does not fit the boxes overleaf, please use a separate piece of paper to explain and ensure this is returned by post with the $172 form, so we can consider your response fully.
• On conviction for failure to supply this information the penalty is similar to that of the alleged offence itself, i.e. both a fine and penalty points. However, the maximum fine in such cases could be £1,000 and the offence carries a 6 point penalty (Section 172 of The Road Traffic Act 1988 applies to UK (Mainland) only).
• It is an offence under section 5 of the Perjury Act to knowingly and wilfully provide false information in your reply; this offence and the offences of perverting the course of justice could both incur a term of imprisonment and/or a fine.
• Please do not send any form of payment or your driving licence at this stage; you will be provided with details of when and how to do this should it become necessary.
PLEASE NOTE THE QUICKEST AND MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO PROVIDE DRIVER DETAILS IS VIA THE ONLINE PORTAL, WWW.MERSEYSIDEPAS.CO.UK. BY PROVIDING DETAILS ONLINE YOU DO NOT NEED TO RETURN THE FORM
ONLY THE ADDRESSEE SHOULD COMPLETE THE DETAILS. DO NOT PASS TO ANOTHER PERSON
Said letter, my V5 had the correct address, it’s the one I’ve been living at for many years.
In accordance with Section 1 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 l hereby give you notice that it is intended to take proceedings against the driver of the above motor vehicle, a PEUGEOT, recorded speed 63, time into red light 0, for the alleged offence of Exceed a 50mph speed restriction on a special road / motorway - automatic camera device at 11:11 on 11/05/2024 at M62 (Westbound), Liverpool, Merseyside.
To view images on the offence or for further information for this offence, please log into the online portal using the PIN provided above at www.merseysidepas.co.uk You may also admit to being the driver or nominate another driver, new keeper or hirer by visiting the online portal.
REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION UNDER SECTION 172 OF THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACT 1988
• Under Section 172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 the person who keeps the vehicle is hereby required to supply details of the person they believe was driving the vehicle on the above occasion within 28 days. Anyone else, and any keeper who claims to be unable to identify the driver, is hereby required to supply any information it is in their power to give, which may lead to the driver's identification.
• If you claim to be unable to identify the driver and / or the information you do have does not fit the boxes overleaf, please use a separate piece of paper to explain and ensure this is returned by post with the $172 form, so we can consider your response fully.
• On conviction for failure to supply this information the penalty is similar to that of the alleged offence itself, i.e. both a fine and penalty points. However, the maximum fine in such cases could be £1,000 and the offence carries a 6 point penalty (Section 172 of The Road Traffic Act 1988 applies to UK (Mainland) only).
• It is an offence under section 5 of the Perjury Act to knowingly and wilfully provide false information in your reply; this offence and the offences of perverting the course of justice could both incur a term of imprisonment and/or a fine.
• Please do not send any form of payment or your driving licence at this stage; you will be provided with details of when and how to do this should it become necessary.
PLEASE NOTE THE QUICKEST AND MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO PROVIDE DRIVER DETAILS IS VIA THE ONLINE PORTAL, WWW.MERSEYSIDEPAS.CO.UK. BY PROVIDING DETAILS ONLINE YOU DO NOT NEED TO RETURN THE FORM
ONLY THE ADDRESSEE SHOULD COMPLETE THE DETAILS. DO NOT PASS TO ANOTHER PERSON
Said letter, my V5 had the correct address, it’s the one I’ve been living at for many years.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Caught speeding Merseyside
« on: June 13, 2024, 02:04:51 pm »
V5 is the correct address, it has been since the car was purchased over 2 years ago. I’ve had a previous speeding ticket that arrived within a few days to the correct address.
Unfortunately I don’t have the letter in front of me, it did state on the letter it had been sent to a wrong address, I’m assuming whoever it was sent to replied stating they weren’t the owner. Once I have the letter in front of me, I’ll word it better. It’s not an NIP, it’s basically asking me to confirm who was driving the vehicle and I’m able to view the photos from the offence, that’s how I knew it was a fixed camera.
Thank you for the reply, as soon as I’m back I’ll reread the letter to clarify.
Unfortunately I don’t have the letter in front of me, it did state on the letter it had been sent to a wrong address, I’m assuming whoever it was sent to replied stating they weren’t the owner. Once I have the letter in front of me, I’ll word it better. It’s not an NIP, it’s basically asking me to confirm who was driving the vehicle and I’m able to view the photos from the offence, that’s how I knew it was a fixed camera.
Thank you for the reply, as soon as I’m back I’ll reread the letter to clarify.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Caught speeding Merseyside
« on: June 13, 2024, 11:03:46 am »
Recently got caught speeding 63mph in a 50mph zone by a fixed camera. Merseyside police.
Got caught on 11/05/2024 but didn’t actually receive the letter until 10/06/2024. It does state on the letter it was originally sent to the wrong address, my address is correct on my license, insurance and V5.
Can anyone advise if I’d have a case to fight this or is it a case of accepting the points? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Got caught on 11/05/2024 but didn’t actually receive the letter until 10/06/2024. It does state on the letter it was originally sent to the wrong address, my address is correct on my license, insurance and V5.
Can anyone advise if I’d have a case to fight this or is it a case of accepting the points? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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