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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, code 19s, parked after the expiry of paid for time
« on: June 30, 2024, 11:15:41 pm »
Sorry, that was a typo. I meant on-street and not off-street parking.

Here's the receipt for the second session, which started at 11:13 AM (a minute before the PCN was issued): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gUcLipaHA-NFJuqHjQPVigSzOhfSFvLF/view?usp=drivesdk

As I was nearing the 14-day deadline since the PCN was issued, I already submitted my representation with the text below.

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Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to formally contest the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued to my vehicle on 12/06/2024 at 11:14 AM on Chaplin Road. There are important circumstances that warrant a review of this PCN.

Firstly, the PCN was issued one minute after I purchased the new parking session. This indicates that I made immediate efforts to rectify the parking situation and comply with the parking regulations.

Furthermore, I would like to bring to your attention the reason for the delay in purchasing the new parking ticket. On the date of the incident, I had a speech and language therapy session for my son at the nearby Wembley Centre for Health and Social Care. The therapy room where the session took place had no mobile reception, and it was not feasible for me to leave the therapy midway to purchase a new parking session online. However, as soon as I had mobile reception after stepping out of the therapy room, I promptly purchased the new parking session.

I have been a law-abiding tax-paying resident of Brent for over 14 years, and I have never shied away from paying parking fees, including on this occasion. I take pride in upholding my civic responsibilities and complying with all relevant regulations.

I kindly request a review of the circumstances described above and ask for the cancellation of the PCN in light of the mitigating factors.

I have attached evidence of the speech and language therapy session for my son at the Wembley Centre for Health and Social Care, as well as proof of the subsequent purchase of the parking session. I would be grateful if these could be taken into consideration during the review process.

I look forward to your prompt attention to this matter and a favourable resolution.

Yours sincerely,


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Brent, code 19s, parked after the expiry of paid for time
« on: June 26, 2024, 10:18:48 pm »
Hello All,

I had my son’s speech and language therapy appointment at Brent’s Medical Centre. I parked the car off-road in a council-controlled pay and display area a few minutes’ walk from the medical centre.

I purchased a pay and display ticket from the machine and displayed it on my dashboard.

Ticket expiry time: 10:51 AM

Unfortunately, the appointment lasted longer than I had anticipated, and I couldn't leave midway through. There was no mobile reception in the medical centre's speech therapy room, so I could only purchase a new ticket when I had reception at the end of my appointment (I know it's my problem, not the council's.)

So, I purchased a new ticket online using the app at 11:13 AM (22 minutes after the expiry of the pay & display ticket) just as I walked into a mobile network area within the medical centre.

Sadly, at around the same time, and unknown to me, a CEO was observing my car. He observed my car from 11:10 to 11:14 and issued a ticket at 11:14 AM, literally a minute after I had purchased a new parking session.

The front and back of the PCN are here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gNZqdtCywfhqDvIUtI2tSyxNNkAmozyq/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gTAooyZb9ZjehEoFEs3WQJwXZ8RV3ERQ/view?usp=drivesdk

When I walked back to my car at around 11:20 and saw the PCN issued and the CEO nearby, I ran up to him and explained my situation. He said his system didn't show my new session when he was issuing the PCN. He took a picture of the live session on my app but said he couldn't cancel the PCN since it had already been issued. He advised me to challenge it by explaining the situation.

My question to the experts here is whether it's worth making a representation, and if so, what should be my line of argument?

I have two issues that I don't know how to explain and that potentially undermine my representation.

1) 22-minute gap between the two sessions, although I am honest when I say there was no mobile reception and hence I couldn't purchase the second session on time.

2) The first pay-and-display ticket was purchased from the machine. The nearby sign says no return within 2 hours. And yet I purchased an online session after the expiry of the first pay & display ticket. I honestly don't know how this rule applies. The thing is that the app allows session extension, so it is technically the same session getting extended. But the machine only allows new tickets (i.e., a new session when your first ticket expires), so I am not sure if it is treated as two sessions and a breach of the no return within 2 hours condition? My first ticket was physical, and the second an online purchase, so there was no option to extend anyway.

Many thanks in anticipation of some helpful guidance on whether and on what basis to make a representation.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Urgent help: Hammersmith 31j - yellow box contravention
« on: June 05, 2024, 12:37:12 am »
Thanks, I submitted this earlier today and as instructed (without the text after ***).

I didn't take a screenshot of what I wrote, but I do have an email from the council saying they got it (but it doesn't have what I wrote).

I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens. I'm not very hopeful, but I figured I might as well try!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Urgent help: Hammersmith 31j - yellow box contravention
« on: June 02, 2024, 08:59:13 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on June 02, 2024, 07:27:06 pm
1(1) Do not spell it out to them. I have won a case on this.

Thank you so much. :)

I did not understand this footnote 1(1) referring to the first point in your representation. Should I reword the statement in the first para?

Also, should I include the link to the legislation itself in my representation?


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Urgent help: Hammersmith 31j - yellow box contravention
« on: June 02, 2024, 01:33:30 pm »
Thank you.

I have attached all the three pages of the PCN.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Urgent help: Hammersmith 31j - yellow box contravention
« on: June 02, 2024, 01:07:43 pm »
Hi,

I got a PCN from the London borough of Hammersmith and Fulham regarding an alleged traffic contravention 31j: entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited - camera enforcement.

The alleged contravention happened on the 5th of May, and the notice was issued on the 22nd of May, so I need to challenge this in a day or two.

Here is the link to the PCN.

Here is the video (silver Mercedes stranded on the yellow box).

Here are the zoomed out and zoomed in images.

This is an incredibly big yellow box with poor lighting (under a bridge) which does impede the ability to see how far the box goes. It is apparently the most notorious yellow box in the country. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pm80g8p5zo

Here's the Google street view link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/hR4CoAU31jXRqm4h6

When I set out into the yellow box, there was clearly a space for me to exit the box on the other side. However, as I entered the box, someone cut in front of me and got into the space (evident from the video) leaving me stuck. I couldn't back my car to enter a different lane because of the traffic.

As another line of argument, I read up the rules and it says: you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right.

I would like to understand if it makes sense to challenge this, and if yes, how must I phrase my representation?

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