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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP for 73 in a temp 30 zone
« on: March 28, 2026, 11:27:37 am »
Has anybody checked that there was a Traffic Regulation Order in place for the temporary limit?
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Assuming it hasn't been taken down since July 2024, you would have passed the advance signage here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/V5jdUTy8i6yyNfc7A
I did not notice any advance signage elsewhere.
Surprised to receive PCN for 'entering and stopping' in yellow box at junction with Tillingbourne Gardens.Not sure I'm following you. It is a junction of 2 roads - Tillingbourne Gardens and Regents Park Road (assuming you mean here).
I've seen that a yellow box should be at a junction of 2 or more roads but this is a single road only.
But where is the private property boundary here?Probably at the tree line. I think it reasonably obvious that you're on the road verge, not somebody else's grass.
I feel there was no contravention, since the sign when entering the road states "Controlled Zone V Mon-Fri 9am-5pm". The alleged contravention was on 24/01/2026 at 14.18, which was a Saturday. Furthermore, I found this: https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/news/2026/01/trial-make-wormholt-safer-and-quieterYou can read the (current) signage on the video - it's no motor vehicles at any time, except taxis and permit holders.
It says "A new neighbourhood improvement trial in the Wormholt area is being enforced with PCN fines from 5 January. It will continue to cut congestion and pollution. Out-of-borough motorists have received warning notices about the scheme since 5 November."
I assume I am one of the out of Borough motorists? ; but there is no signage to this effect.
Presumably because it's a cheaper way of encouraging people to slow down than having the cameras everywhere.There was a popular misconception many years ago, that there was a requirement for speed cameras to be conspicuous in order for the speeding offence to be prosecuted. This was largely due to Tony Blair saying that that was going to be the case. Surprisingly enough, it was a big fat lie.
What the rules actually were, before they were rescinded many years ago, at first glance at least, that in order for the safety camera partnerships to be able to retain the income from the fixed penalties (and return any surplus they hadn't managed to fiddle to the exchequer), 85% of enforcement sites had to meet the conspicuity requirements. This had no bearing whatsoever on the admissibility of the evidence, it was just a rule regarding keeping the money. Except that the rules were enforced by the safety camera partnerships themselves - if they became aware that they were not complying with the rules, they had the power to report themselves to themselves and then decide whether or not they still ought to keep the money.
I just question why the Constabularies bother with the signage in the first place if it is not required. The whole 165 miles of my journey has Speed camera warnings/in operation signs apart from the said section of the M50.
So would you advise putting a shortened version of these descrepancies in my mitigation if I were to plead guiltyNone of them seem like mitigation - they aren't relevant to your culpability or what your sentence ought to be. Mitigation is e.g. it being your first offence, you being distracted for some unusual but good reason (rushing to a hospital bedside etc), you need licence for work/family etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cf.QuoteWork out the 14 days discount and cf. with the website page.
Sorry, I'm not clear what cf. means