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Quote from: mrmustard on 18 Jan, 2026 09:10If you pay you will very probably never see that money again   feels quite unfair that the council hasn’t provided the evidence, and by the time I receive it the discount period will have passed. Though I will just pay it, and if it turns out there’s no TMO I’ll try to kindly request a refund - £160 is too much for meThank you for your help anyway. I’ll wait until 6pm tomorrow and hopefully they respond!

Hi both @mrmustard , @stamfordmanThe council hasn't responded to the FOI nor the email I sent to them. Tomorrow (Monday) is the 13th day, so if I don't hear back tomorrow by 5pm, should I make the payment and then hopefully if they come back to me and say that there is no TMO, I can ask for a refund?

Quote from: stamfordman on 09 Jan, 2026 14:51The idea that you have to file an FOI for a TMO under which they are enforcing a contravention is ridiculous. They'd have to produce the TMO at the tribunal.Yeah I thought so too, sounds unfair. I filled out FOI link asap, and they’ve said they will aim to respond by 6th February but it will be too late by then (the last day of the discount is 20th Jan).

Quote from: mrmustard on 09 Jan, 2026 14:24You haven't provided your numberplate, a copy of exactly what you wrote or a copy of the informal rejection (with only the name and address covered up).Once those are posted I will study your case.Hi there,Thank you for responding. Based on advice from stamfordman, I mainly tried to argue based on the fact that the council should provide proof that the specific single yellow line has a valid TRO extending it past 6.30pm. I wrote this in my informal challenge:Dear Sir or Madam,I am writing to challenge the above Penalty Charge Notice.PCN number: PN24247946Vehicle registration: T9JWCDate and time of contravention: 20/12/2025 at 19:16Location: Park Road, E6The alleged contravention occurred within the Upton Park Controlled Parking Zone, which operates from 8:00am to 6:30pm, Monday to Saturday. When parking, I relied on the Controlled Parking Zone entry signage and the parking sign located opposite my vehicle, both of which indicated that parking restrictions ended at 6:30pm.When I returned to my vehicle, I was surprised to see a Penalty Charge Notice. After reviewing the stated reason, I walked along the street and observed a single yellow line timeplate indicating that the restriction extends to 8:00pm. However, single yellow lines within a CPZ are ordinarily governed by the CPZ hours unless specifically exempted by a valid and current Traffic Management Order.I therefore request that the council provide proof that this specific section of single yellow line is subject to a current Traffic Management Order which lawfully extends the restriction beyond the CPZ hours to 8:00pm.In the absence of such an Order, the single yellow line should be governed by the CPZ operational hours, and the alleged contravention would not have occurred. On this basis, I respectfully request that the Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled.Yours faithfully,They responded yesterday 7th January with the following:Link: https://imgpile.com/p/YHzFkbF

Quote from: stamfordman on 21 Dec, 2025 11:48This is in the Upton Park controlled parking zone, which operates 8am-6.30pm Mon-Sat.Where single yellows are not controlled by the CPZ they must have a timeplate as here but it's possible this is a rogue plate left over when Newham put in the CPZ. We don't have access to Newham's traffic order map but it's worth challenging to ask them to provide proof the line has a current order extending its time to 8pm. There seems to be no reason for this as single yellows on the main road end at 6.30pm.Hi just to provide an update on this. The council responded and rejected my appeal - they mentioned that the timeplate behind the vehicle showed 8am-8pm so the penalty stands. However, they did not provide proof for the TRO, and instead instructed me to file for a FOI. I have done that, but at the end of the form it said it will take 20 working days to hear back. So, I will wait till the 12th day or so, if I hear back and there's proof that there is no valid TRO maybe we can do something? If not, I will just pay it and take it as a life lesson. Let me know your thoughts, thanks for your help!

Quote from: stamfordman on 21 Dec, 2025 11:48This is in the Upton Park controlled parking zone, which operates 8am-6.30pm Mon-Sat.Where single yellows are not controlled by the CPZ they must have a timeplate as here but it's possible this is a rogue plate left over when Newham put in the CPZ. We don't have access to Newham's traffic order map but it's worth challenging to ask them to provide proof the line has a current order extending its time to 8pm. There seems to be no reason for this as single yellows on the main road end at 6.30pm.Thank you for responding! Yes same, I lived in Upton for 8 years and on all the streets the restrictions end at 6.30pm, that's why I just checked looked across the street and saw the normal parking sign which stated (8am-6.30pm Mon-Sat), and thought I was good. But I didn't know that on a pole a bit behind me there would be another sign, specifically for the single yellow. As for what you mentioned - what exactly would I say to the council? And also, can i just double check - if they reject my claim, will I still be able to pay at the discounted rate (£80)?

Hi all,Today I've received a PCN today, at 19:16 on Park Road E6. I wanted to see if anything could be done about it? I parked on a single yellow - what happened was that where I parked legit across me was the parking sign which said Mon-Sat (8am-6.30pm), and because I parked after this time, I thought okay no problem. But on my pole behind me (at the time there were two vehicles parked behind me too) there was a small sign which mentioned specifically the restrictions for the yellow line.Can anything be done? Would really appreciate help and advice, thank you very much!Posted pics of the PCN and two pics from Newham website: https://postimg.cc/gallery/w7Vts5XExact location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Park+Rd,+London/@51.5365396,0.0375369,3a,75y,10.91h,65.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ske3zbsA3OH1iOsyARFQWAA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D24.077888501492822%26panoid%3Dke3zbsA3OH1iOsyARFQWAA%26yaw%3D10.906674017991087!7i13312!8i6656!4m6!3m5!1s0x47d8a7b7e0f9aa87:0x8520927730e77b54!8m2!3d51.5358951!4d0.0368631!16s%2Fg%2F1vyxhp5k?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA3MUgBUAM%3D

Hi apologises forget to update you here!I received an email from the council that the point (which you raised) was valid and they got rid of the penalty. But that response you received is absolutely absurd, I am so so happy that I decided to reach out and seek some help, otherwise my mum was going to pay because she had no idea. Thank you so much for all your help, you’re a legend for sure! ❤️😁

Quote from: John U.K. on 31 Jul, 2023 15:40You have a copy of their receipt from 3rd July?Have you checked the status/timeline for the PCN on their website?Councils can be tardy about replying, but IF you get a NtO, post it here at once.Hi there, apologies for the late reply.Yep, I have the receipt, I took a screenshot and have the reference number. Where would I check the status of the PCN? On the Newham page I just see three options: 1) Pay 2) Challenge 3) View the photosSure, I will!

Hi! I filled out the 'Informal Challenge Form' on the council page on the 3rd July but they still haven't said anything to me. And when submitting, it said they will write to me to let me know that I do not have to pay (if successful) or they would give me another 14 days to pay (if unsuccessful). But I haven't heard anything?

I've done as you instructed, thank you! That was a really good point you made! Genius 

Oh I haven't paid yet, but the pictures of my vehicle can be viewed by going to: https://parking.newham.gov.uk/pages/OnlineReferenceEntry.aspx?loadtype=NOTICEREVIEW And my PCN is: PN36080473And the back of PCN photo is attached. [ Guests cannot view attachments ]

Quote from: cp8759 on 02 Jul, 2023 20:15I have requested a copy of the Temporary Traffic Regulation Order and the other paperwork they need to support a restriction of this type.In the meantime please email suspension.dispensation@newham.gov.uk and cc anthony.Polston@newham.gov.uk asking for a copy of the enforcement photos.Your deadline to make representations and preserve the discount is midnight on 10 July, so it's not mega-urgent but don't lose track of the date. If you don't hear back from the council by Friday next week, let us know and I'll draft an informal representation for you.Hi there, I got a response, they have uploaded the photos now. The photos shows that half of our vehicle was parked in line with 1 Rutland and half is a bit head of it. So I guess there is nothing that can be done now, I really do appreciate your efforts!

Hi there!I have sent the email over to the council, thanks for all the support; appreciate it a lot!

Link to Notice (photo): https://ibb.co/n7fn2pHLink to PCN (photo): https://ibb.co/6nSSYzT