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i have also looked on Teignbridge council planning map and that little bit of road is marked as Seymour Rd

even though the houses on GSV are down as Rundle Rd.


I have been back and done some measuring and took some more photos


This shows how deep the gulley is.




this picture shows :- pink line edge of gulley
                      silver line 50 cm from edge of gulley
                      the blue circle on the picture with no car is the exact same place as the blue circle which i have added to ceo's picture also i have
measured the number plate of the mini which is 52cm which gives you some perspective.

I placed the car in the same position as exact as i could to the original photo and the silver lines are under the car.


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can i appeal with multiple points, such as wrong location and also measurement from wrong starting point. ie ( edge of road ).

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The law does not require any signage so that is a losing argument. Your best bet if the location is correct, might be to argue that the edge of the carriageway is not where the stone wall is because there is a drainage gulley between your car and the wall that is mostly hidden by debris and vegetation. The edge of the carriageway is next to the gulley and you do not believe that the rear wheel of your car is more than 50cm away from the edge of the carriageway/gulley and if the council disagree ask them to provide evidence that the CEO measured the distance between the rear wheel of your car and the edge because it only takes a CEO judgement error of 1mm for the contravention to have not occurred.

Thank you also Phantomcrusader

I might go around tonight and mark with some chalk 50cm, take some photo's and see what it looks like,
I also notice there is a plastic bollard lying in the gutter, which looks like was in the ground further out.

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GSV suggests that the vehicle was (only just) in Seymour Road?

https://tinyurl.com/42krm8um

Thank you for your reply barouder, would wrong location be a defense, because if you travel further up the hill there is a property
on the left with the address 9 Rundle Rd, then you also come to the white line junction with Seymour Rd which goes left to right.

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YD 17344511A  WJ13FMO

A family member has received a PCN





 on 4/5/2024 while parking to go to work
at this location  https://maps.app.goo.gl/GgMNKzpec8gnd1k58

they normally park in  this area but unfortunately fell foul of this
code 26, " Parked in a special enforcement area more than 50cm from the edge of the carriageway and not within a designated parking place.

i have lived in this area for over 50 years and have never heard about this "Special enforcement area" but on further investigation have found two signs which are at the two main entrances to this area , here
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4SRNu6kSwUgg9yYs9

and here
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SxHrNzoT6RU3gBX6A

But there is another way into this so called "enforcement area" here


https://maps.app.goo.gl/be33h3Zmc2yMRBDj9

we live on the side of town were you would use the entrance into Rundle Road and as you can see there are no signs informing you of the enforcement area,
also on the PCN the location specifies that the car was parked in Seymour Road  which is wrong they were parked in Rundle Road.

Also at the location in question there is a deep gulley were you have to be careful not to get your wheel in or you can bottom out your car quite easily, these images don't do it justice.




so therefore where is the actual edge of the road, now admittedly they could of got a bit closer than they did, but having been stuck in this gulley before they have possibly been more careful and kept out a bit too much.

So therefore my question is do we have a case to appeal,
1. on lack of signage.

2. wrong location.
 
3. cant determine where the edge of the road is.
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