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Will do, I have until the 7/5/24, so will wait a bit before submitting. Thank you for all your help so far!

Quick question, I have the option of taking a telephone hearing, or just allowing the legal member to make a decision based on representations. For someone who is not proficient/confident in legal matters like this, am I better to just let the representations do the talking?

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That's amazing, thank you!

I've put together an argument (with GPT4 as not legal speak proficient!) based on these grounds, any thoughts?



I contend that the enforcement actions were not in accordance with the standards outlined in the Traffic Signs Manual 2019, specifically under Chapter 3, Regulatory Signs Section 13.7.5, which emphasizes the need for clear visibility of parking bay legends at all times. Additionally, the local authority has failed to comply with Section 17(f) (i) and (ii) of the Notice of Making the Order and Subsequent Procedure, which mandates the **** and maintenance of adequate traffic signs.

Key Points of My Appeal:

Visibility and Legibility of Road Markings:
The 'SOLO M/C' markings at the location where I was fined were significantly faded and obscured, reducing their visibility, particularly under nighttime conditions when I parked on March 12, 2024, around 19:00. This issue of legibility directly contradicts the guidance in the Traffic Signs Manual that markings must be clearly visible to drivers at all times.
Environmental Obstructions:
The presence of a tree directly above the parking spot may have contributed to obscuring the road markings due to fallen leaves. Although I cannot confirm that leaves were covering the markings at the time, this natural obstruction is a significant environmental factor that should be considered, especially given the manual’s emphasis on maintaining clear visibility under various conditions.
Inconsistent Signage Practices:
Comparatively, other parking bays such as those designated for car clubs feature both clear ground markings and additional signage. The absence of consistent signage practices, especially in an area predominantly used for permit parking, introduces a disparity in how parking regulations are communicated to motorists, thereby impacting their ability to comply.
Failure to Comply with Legal Signage Requirements:
According to Section 17(f) (i) and (ii) of the Notice of Making the Order and Subsequent Procedure, the local authority is required to erect and maintain traffic signs to ensure that they are adequate for informing the public of the effects of parking orders. The poor condition and inadequate maintenance of the 'SOLO M/C' markings suggest a failure to meet these legal obligations, thereby affecting the validity of the PCN issued.
Request for Action:

Given these points, I respectfully request a review and subsequent cancellation of both the PCN and the towing charge. The conditions under which the parking violation was deemed to have occurred do not align with the guidelines provided in the Traffic Signs Manual, which stresses the importance of clear and visible signage to ensure fair and lawful enforcement.

Enclosed are photographs taken at the site showing the condition of the road markings compared to other nearby marked spots, along with a copy of the relevant pages from the Traffic Signs Manual 2019 for your reference.

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Hi All,

At the appeal stage of my PCN. Appealing due to unclear markings, but unsure if I actually have a case here.

Car got towed, so I have had to pay a pretty hefty charge, £300>, as I was unaware it was towed for some days. As a student, this is pretty catastrophic for me financially, so I'm appealing out of hope/necessity for a refund.

I've attached a Drive link for the evidence I submitted and the correspondence between myself and the council. Posting here to ask if there are any additional grounds/precedence I can add to the appeal.

Many thanks

Google Drive Link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cW_H-JNhCysAFFBRVmtkX63vJARjtE10?usp=sharing

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