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Thanks for the reply and advice.  I have seen the video and asked my Uncle what happened, he said he only reversed a lttle as there was no parking further down the road and he wanted to unload some items.  He is an OAP with a disabled badge so cannot walk very far.

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Good afternoon,

Please see the PCN below that my uncle received after briefly reversing down a one-way street in order to park and unload some items at his flat.

Could you please advise whether there is any scope to appeal this notice?

Many thanks












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 I will ask her when she is back from work but I guess we don't have a leg to stand on then for this one? Thanks

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Thanks @Incandescent I have spoken to the Mrs and she said she was following the sat nav which didn't have the restiction marked - it was a route she doesn't normally take but was directed down the road due to traffic.  apparently she approached the junction straight (from the left) down St Andrews from Blackhorse lane

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Good evening,

I hope you are well

My wife has just received the attached PCN when she took a wrong turn on the way home from work - is there any scope for an appeal?  Any assistance much appreciated, thanks




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It's up to you really. You don't have a strong argument, but with good adjudicator, you might win on the basis of the only clock visible on approach to the sign is the one in your car, which, whilst reasonably accurate is clearly not as accurate as the one used by the council, but the council have not placed such an accurate clock that they claim to use at the point of entry. There was a successful case some years ago where the adjudicator said there had to be some application of common sense, in view of the fact the motorist only has his own clock to rely on which may show a different time. Having said that, your are not a hugely strong ground with a four minute variance. Careful writing of the appeal emphasising the council demand absolute obedience to the times, yet do not place a clock to esure this. Let's face it, if they can afford the cameras they can afford a couple of clocks ?

Of course it's your money, so if you paid, the regulars on here, like me, will understand.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, that makes sense. I can see how the “no clock at the point of entry” argument could be used, but it does sound like it would come down to how sympathetic the adjudicator is on the day. Given that it’s only a four-minute difference and not the strongest ground to fight on, we’ll probably just leave it rather than take it further.

Appreciate the advice and the context though, very helpful as always!

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Good afternoon

Hope you are well.

LBR have replied to my appeal - please see response below and kindly advise - is it worth taking further or just settling now?

Thanks






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Okay I will submit an appeal based on the de minimis argument and see what happens.  thanks

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thanks for your reply, Ihave checked with the Mrs and the time displayed in the car was wrong so when she entered the zone she did not know it was still prohibited.  Anyway - I found this post below - do we have similar grounds for appeal? (Blue Term time sign)

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/london-borough-of-redbridge-53j-failing-to-comply-with-a-restriction-school-stre/msg69309/#msg69309

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Good evening,

I hope you are well.

Please see below PCN received by the Mrs - she wandred in without realising she had to wait another 4 mins before entering the restricted street.  Worth appealing? If you require any further information, please let me know.  Many thanks




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Thanks everyone, what timewasters


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Thanks everyone.  Redbrdige cancelled this PCN but stated the usual that the PCN was rightly served.

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We need to know where she was stationary. Once one starts to signal, and drive off, then one is "in traffic". If one is "in traffic" the contravention cannot occur, or else any line of traffic standing on the bus stop could be walloped with PCNs, which is obviously absurd.

Yes, she had parked on the single line before the bus stop.

Here is the location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9CRNcjJcYje96nYN6

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Good evening,

My Auntie has just received this PCN below and she got it while she was trying to pull away and merge into the traffic.  She is a blue badge holder and had parked well before the bus stop.  The Video conveniently only shows her in the bus stop not the seconds before she entered the bust stop or after and one can clearly see she is trying to safely pull away but had to wait for an opportunity.  Looks very similar to one posted on here last year: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/redbridge-pcn-high-road-seven-kings-(a)-stopped-on-a-restricted-bus-stop/#msg13484

Please advise, many thanks




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