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Thanks, so here is my draft appeal, any advice much appreciated:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I wish to make representations against Penalty Charge Notice AF5838970, relating to vehicle YJ33K at Clayhall Avenue on 15 August 2026.

I have reviewed the CCTV footage and it clearly shows that the vehicle stopped for approximately five seconds only, solely to allow a passenger to alight, before immediately moving away. The vehicle was not parked or waiting at the bus stop.

The driver is also a disabled person and a valid Blue Badge holder. I appreciate that a Blue Badge does not provide an exemption from a bus stop restriction, but I ask the Council to take the driver's circumstances into account when considering whether it is appropriate to exercise its discretion.

I would also ask the Council to consider the position and visibility of the bus-stop restriction sign from the direction of approach. The restriction sign is not visible in the CCTV footage as the vehicle approaches the location, and I would ask the Council to confirm that the signage was correctly positioned and adequately visible to an approaching motorist.

Given the exceptionally brief duration of the stop, the fact that it was solely to allow a passenger to alight, the driver's circumstances and the issue regarding the visibility of the restriction signage, I respectfully ask the Council to exercise its discretion and cancel the PCN.

I would be grateful if the CCTV footage could be reviewed in full when considering this representation.

Yours faithfully,

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Hi

Hope you are well.  My Father has just received the ticket below which looks very similar to this one -

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/redbridge-code-47j-stopped-on-a-restricted-bus-stop-clayhall-avenue/

Please can you advise if this is worth appealing.  My Father (who is a disabled badge holder) only stopped for a few seconds.

Thanks




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Thanks Hippocrates, so is this okay to submit:

Dear Sir or Madam

Re: Enforcement Notice – PCN GX33149185
Vehicle Registration: TRL1P

I make these formal representations against the Enforcement Notice on the grounds that the alleged contravention did not occur and that there has been a procedural impropriety.

Firstly, I ask that my initial challenge against the Penalty Charge Notice be treated as incorporated into these formal representations. I rely upon all of the points raised therein. TfL's rejection letter does not properly address the procedural improprieties identified, but merely asserts that the signage complies with the relevant legislation.

The alleged contravention did not occur

TfL has failed to produce evidence that my vehicle passed the prescribed bus lane entry sign (diagram 958 or 959).

The rejection letter merely states that the signage complies with the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016. That is simply an assertion and is not evidence.

Having reviewed the CCTV footage, it does not show my vehicle passing either a diagram 958 or diagram 959 bus lane entry sign before the alleged contravention. Likewise, the still photographs contained within the Penalty Charge Notice do not show any such signage.

I therefore put TfL to strict proof that the prescribed bus lane entry sign was present, lawful, clearly visible and actually passed by my vehicle before the alleged contravention occurred.

Procedural impropriety

I continue to rely upon the procedural improprieties identified in my original challenge, including in particular:

  • the statement that an Enforcement Notice will "automatically" be issued, which fetters the authority's discretion where the legislation provides that an Enforcement Notice may be issued;
  • the misleading wording concerning correspondence before the Enforcement Notice and the right of appeal; and
  • the failure to properly consider the matters raised in my initial challenge.

CCTV evidence

Although I requested the CCTV evidence promptly, it was supplied only on DVD.

In 2026, it is unreasonable to expect a motorist to possess or obtain DVD playback equipment simply to examine the evidence relied upon by the enforcement authority. This unnecessarily hindered my ability to review the evidence and prepare my case. TfL could easily have provided the footage via an online viewing portal or downloadable electronic

For the reasons set out above, TfL has failed to discharge the burden of proving the alleged contravention.

Accordingly, I respectfully request that the Enforcement Notice and the underlying Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled.

Yours faithfully

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Thanks, whilst I check with the finance company is it possible to pay the £80 and continue to appeal/take it to tribunal?  I am just trying to avoid paying the finance company an admin charge.  Thanks
Unfortunately not
oh dear, its on a 4 year lease which is coming to an end this September

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Thanks, whilst I check with the finance company is it possible to pay the £80 and continue to appeal/take it to tribunal?  I am just trying to avoid paying the finance company an admin charge.  Thanks

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Yes, eventually they did in the form of a DVD as mentioned in my draft appeal (above).  Thanks

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Thanks and I agree.  I am happy to take this further but we are not the registered keeper (the finance company is) and I suspect if they receive the NtO then they may be pay it and then charge us for it + admin fee

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Hi,

Hope you are well.  EN received - please see below and kindly advise.  Thanks






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Hi,

Hope you are well.  As expected rejection received from Redbridge - please review and advise.  thanks






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Thanks, I will submit and I agree with you it will probably get rejected but would it be worth taking all the way to the adjudicator?

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Hi, hope you are well. Any advice on my draft appeal above before I submit.  Any comments much appreciated.  Thanks

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Hi,  Please see below my draft appeal, kindly advise before I submit. 

Thanks

PCN No: AF15382445 — Vehicle: BK72LWD — Challenge

I am challenging this PCN, issued on 03/07/2026 on Atherton Road for contravention 62(2).

There are signs (TSRGD diagram 667B) indicating that footway parking is permitted on both sides of this stretch of Atherton Road: one on my side of the road positioned ahead of where my vehicle was parked, and one on the opposite side positioned level with my vehicle.

Under the Traffic Signs Regulations, where a sign indicates the point at which a restriction, requirement, or prohibition begins or ends, it must be placed "as near as practicable" to that point — not necessarily at the exact point itself. This means the physical position of a sign is not conclusive evidence of precisely where the permitted footway parking area begins or ends; sign placement is frequently constrained by practical factors such as existing lamp columns.

In this case, the sign on the opposite side of the road indicates that footway parking relief applies level with my vehicle's position. If that sign is correctly placed, my vehicle was within the permitted area and no contravention occurred. Only the council's resolution made under section 15(4) of the Greater London Council (General Powers) Act 1974 can determine the actual extent of the permitted and prohibited footway parking areas on this road — the signs themselves are not determinative of that boundary.

I therefore request that, before responding to this challenge, the council refers to the relevant s.15(4) resolution/order for this location and confirms the precise extent of the permitted footway parking area, together with an explanation of why the signage on the two sides of the road appears to indicate different start points for that relief.

I also request disclosure of the Civil Enforcement Officer's photographs taken at the time.

In light of the above, I request that this PCN be cancelled.

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Thanks for the reply, that makes sense.  I went out again to take some more photos so yes further down the side I parked there is a sign but I parked opposite the sign on the other side which I took to mean it was okay.  Also at the other end of the same road there is a sign and some double yellow lines so if the same was on the bit where I parked I would not have parked there.










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