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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: July 09, 2024, 03:34:10 pm »
Over three months after the supposed offence, I finally got a letter today accepting my appeal.  I found the last sentence rather amusing - they clearly have no intention of making their signage clearer.
"Please note That I will be unable to cancel any further Penalty Charge Notices issued to your vehicle in similar circumstances"

Thanks to everyone who gave me advice.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53845897333/sizes/z/

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: June 10, 2024, 09:05:52 pm »
Image of specified grounds:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53783234350/in/dateposted-public/
Which of these would anyone suggest I use?

Image of board indicating payment valid for this car park only
https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53783033638/in/dateposted-public/
I think they should be very clear that the car park across the road is considered the same one

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: June 10, 2024, 08:55:26 pm »
thanks, I had forgotten those instructions

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: June 10, 2024, 08:45:26 pm »
Thanks everyone.  I have now received my NTO which includes a list of specified grounds for appeal.  I am unsure which to you.  I don't seem to be allowed to attach any more images
In the meantime -- one of their reasons for rejecting my initial appeal was that this car park has more than one machine.
The so called car park has a public road running through it.  There is a section of car park on either side of the road, each with its own entrance.  The area where I parked has ONE machine.  I didn't realise both sides of the road counted as one car park.  I recently revisted (on foot) and took a photo which clearly says tickets are valid for this car park only. I believe this is misleading unless they also state that both sides of Bluebell Lane count as one carpark.
Any advice would be welcome

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: May 31, 2024, 10:27:49 pm »
Yes my car and all details are up to date and correct with DVLA - no changes for several years.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: May 31, 2024, 07:19:14 pm »
Can anyone advise me please?  I posted about my parking issue over a month ago.  I appealed to the council.  My appeal was rejected.  I understood I would receive a "notice to owner" in 28 days and I could then make a formal appeal.
I have not received a "notice to owner".  Should I chase them up or just leave it?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: April 28, 2024, 08:45:20 pm »
I rarely look at facebook but someone drew my attention to the Penrith facebook page which has a post about this car park.  Seems machine is actually out of order and several people have been fined not realising the machines in the car park over the road counted for payment.  These posts are later than mine so no reference to the public notice.  Interesting

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: April 27, 2024, 03:32:18 pm »
Thanks to you all for taking the time to read and respond.  I am the registered keeper.  Unfortunately I cannot post my original response as it was done online and I didn't think to take a screenshot.  Basically, I said that I had gone to the meter to pay but finding it covered and seeing the notice beside it I assumed that payments were suspended until Friday 19th April.  I was unaware of any special parking arrangements. I made no mention of the other car park - it would never have occurred to me to pay there.  I don't read the local papers and would have had no reason to look up the council web site to check parking arrangements/charges.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: April 27, 2024, 08:46:56 am »
Thanks for taking the time to answer. Had i read the notice beside a meter where i could pay, i would have paid.  It was the combination of covered meter and notice that made me think payment was not required

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: April 26, 2024, 08:25:56 pm »
I posted it already.  First link is google maps, then 2 photos.  2nd photo is the "public notice "

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Westmorland & Furness. Code 83. Parked without displaying pay& display ticket. Bluebell Lane Penrith
« on: April 26, 2024, 02:33:50 pm »
On Wednesday the 17th of April. I parked in Bluebell Lane car park in Penrith. https://maps.app.goo.gl/423F6XMeEwgKKkAaA  I went to the only meter to pay, it was covered up. There was a notice . Picture below

https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53680000536/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53680363104/in/dateposted-public/

I thought the public notice was a little unclear and wasn't aware of any special parking arrangements but I just assumed charges did not apply until 19/4
I received a parking ticket .  Picture below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53680462865/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53680463080/in/dateposted-public/

I took a photograph of the machine and the notice and sent these together with my informal challenge.
I have now received a letter rejecting my challenge.  Picture below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53680001066/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/200628771@N08/53680000526/in/dateposted-public/

There is no other machine in this car park. However, on the other side of a public road, there is another car park which I have never used. There's a different entrance. So I always considered them two separate car parks. Have I got grounds for a further challenge?

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