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Hi, thanks for that.

I've attached the back of the notice to keeper.

There's no date that shows when the NTK was sent so I was wondering how we know if they sent it within the required time of 14 days. Is it worth asking for prrof of when it was sent? If it went to a court claim wouldn't they have to prove that?

Thanks,

R

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Hi,

The registered keeper recently received a letter from Euro Car parks (see attached). The alleged offence dates back to March but there was no ticket on her car so she only found out today when her Mum gave her the letter (the car is still registered at her Mums house). The driver had parked in Sainsbury's car park in the belief that she was allowed upto 2 hours free parking. On closer inspection of the sign (attached), it states that out of store hours you're only allowed 10 minutes free.

She's only 17 and £85 is a lot of money for her so I just wondered if there is any scope to appeal this?

Many thanks,

R

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@cp8759 - Here's the reply attached. The only thing is that sign is small, set back from the road, and up the road (by a few metres) from where the vehicle was parked. Not sure if that would be worth another try. Interested to know your thoughts.

Many thanks,

R

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That's a good point, I didn't think of that. I guess I'll just have to wait now until I get a reply and see what they say.

For future reference how did you get those photos?

Many thanks,

R

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That's great info, thanks very much. So it's clear the vehicle wasn't parked in the controlled zone and was parked on a standard single yellow line. Does this make a difference as to whether the CEO should wait 5 minutes before issuing the PCN or not?

I've attached the original PCN without anything blanked out.

The CEO was there taking photos of the vehicle upon arrival at the car. He took photos of the car from a few angles, and the sign that was displayed down the road (see attached)

I did already send the letter (copy of text below) last week as time was running out to get it in before the 14 days.

"Dear Sir/Madam
I write to you in respect of the above Penalty Charge Notice issued to my vehicle which was issued for the alleged reason (parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours).
I challenge this PCN as follows:
1. The CEO said that this was a 'controlled zone'.  Therefore, I put you to strict proof that the said zone was adequately signed as I approached from New Malden High Street and turned left onto Sussex Road.
2. The wording of the PCN in terms of the 28 days period is wrong since it does not comply with Schedule 2 para. 2 @   https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/71/schedule/2
(d)that the penalty charge must be paid within the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention occurred,

In light of this procedural impropriety please cancel the PCN."





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ok great thanks, I'll give it a go.

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Is it that they've used "this penalty charge was served" instead of "the alleged contravention occurred" ?

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Thanks Hippocrates, that's really helpful.

Just double-checking point 2 before I write it up - does the front of the ticket not state about the 28 day deadline (see attached)?

Thanks

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Thanks for replying.

To be honest only a glance was given in the search for signage, assuming single yellow lines had a grace period was the mistake by the sound of it.

The reason for parking was to collect food so I doubt that comes under the exemptions!?  ;D

I've attached the back of the PCN just in case.

Many thanks for the advice,

R

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Hi,

A PCN was issued on the windscreen last week after the vehicle was parked on a single yellow line. It was assumed that there was a 5-minute grace period on a single yellow line, although the parking attendant gave zero grace time and said something about it being a "controlled zone". there were no signs that said anything about controlled zones.

The only visible sign nearby was a small one further down the road that mentioned "Mon - Sat, 8am - 6:30pm". Attached is a photo of it as well as the parked car and yellow lines.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eAxwiF8yW2TYrsza6

Are there any grounds to appeal?

Thanks in advance

R

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