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UPDATE
I appealed some days ago stating simply: "Due to what appears to be delays in postage, I have only just received this PCN, I ask that the clock be restarted to allow me reasonable time to investigate this matter." I am still awaiting a response.

I also took advice from the 'Yellow Box Guru' who advised that I argue:
a) that the coach was blocking my view of the yellow box
b) that the box was faded and not visible from my driving seat (he advised I go back and take photos as the boxes are often much easier to view from the sky but faded from ground level.

Here are the photos showing a highly faded box from 1) my driving route and 2) from the side road. This should be winable correct? Should I still wait for a response to my initial appeal asking for more time?

2 PHOTOS HERE: https://imgpile.com/p/f34BXFD

So you are referring to the wording "date of service of PCN" as opposed to "date of notice". Are these things not the same thing?

Incidently, the website still allows me to pay albeit at an increase fee of £240 and it's been approx 47 days since the notice was issued. I have now appealed stating simply: "Due to what appears to be delays in postage, I have only just received this PCN, I ask that the clock be restarted to allow me reasonable time to investigate this matter."

My plan when they write back is this, could admins advise please?

1) The side road joins the main road diagonally. There is a cycle lane on the left. There is a central island on the main road. The box junction should technically end where the central island starts as any extension beyond the central island serves no reasonable purpose. My car was situated beyond the island and did not create any obstruction to traffic turning right. Therefore my appeal should be allowed due to the size of the yellow box extending beyond what is reasonably required and importantly beyond the central island which acts as a traffic movement impedence in anycase.

2) Mitigating circumstances: Due to slow moving traffic, I was following the coach vehicle and it blocked my view of the yellow box. Entering and stopping in the last remains of the box was therefore beyond my control.

Thanks,
Sid

Thanks, so you are saying I would serve a notice to the council to attend the tribunal is one option?

Before I go down that route, please could anyone reply to my list of proposal questions?

a) Image shows last letter of registration is not clear: could be L or E, can I argue this?
b) It states I can have formal representation if: the vehicle was being used without the owner's consent. It must have been used by someone with access to the keys who has not informed me. I have yet to find out who as nobody has said they were the driver yet. Can I argue this?

1.TOPIC TITLE.
Ealing Council, Code 34j Being in a bus lane: Greenford road / Locarno Road, Greenford Southward (U)

I have only just seen this PCN, there must have been a delay in the post. Contravention was 27/11/2025 and I have received this one month later on 28/12/2025, though it does say it was issued 6 days after the alleged contravention.

2. Outline of case: I am the owner of the vehicle but I was not the driver at the time. It appears the car was turning left from a bus lane in advance of the junction by about 25m according to google maps.

3. Video of incident
https://imgpile.com/p/dOmt80G

4. My questions

a) What can I say in the best words to explain I just received the fine?
b) Can I argue the route appears clear to enter bus lane to turn left?
c) Image shows last letter of registration is not clear: could be L or E, can I argue this?
d) It states I can have formal representation if: the vehicle was being used without the owner's consent. It must have been used by someone with access to the keys who has not informed me. I have yet to find out who as nobody has said they were the driver yet. Can I argue this?
d) Anything else you advise?

5. PCN and images

@cp8759 I only have 6 more days to reply to reach them by the deadline, please can you help with my appeal? thank you.

Thanks i'm well appreciative of all the help and will await admins help

In terms of how long this could have been going on for: It's been since Dec 2023. After talking to Simmon's bar management next door, they informed me that the council repaved the road around Dec 2023 and the contractors painted the whole street with double red lines. Later they came back to paint the white line box demarcations but did not remove the red line inside this white box demarcation specifically at this spot. Since Dec 2023 to now they have been fining people in this white box demarcation, the staff told me loads of people they know have been fined at this exact spot I was in.