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PM received. You have made representations?
I have - is it too late to include additional challenges?

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Just realised discount ends today! Wanted to confirm if there any points to include in an appeal.
Discount ended yesterday so if it is still available I suggest you avail yourself of the offer.

Hmmm so discount still shows as active when viewing PCN. Suggesting if I appeal as it’s out of 14 days, if it gets rejected will go straight to 160?

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Just realised discount ends today! Wanted to confirm if there any points to include in an appeal.

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Hi

Entered a school zone. I realised too late but just wanted to see if there is any defence or technical challenge for the PCN. It was raining and was just following cars in front of me (my fault of course!)



https://imgpile.com/p/Xe8MtHD

PCN no: ZN20620119
VRM: GC65TWU

GSW: (51.5786562, -0.0871071)

Thanks!

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I've checked you had the right VRM and bay location code* so this should be easy. Just send:

Dear Enfield, the contravention did not occur as I had bought parking rights at the time of the alleged contravention.

Please find attached the PayByPhone receipt.

I look forward to early confirmation of cancellation.

*The code in the CEO pic is correct but I can see an inconsistency - your receipt says Enfield Highway but I think you were in Brick Lane as per the PCN?

Thanks! Appreciate it

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PCN is in the link - have edited for GSV.

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Hi,

A PCN was issued at this location, but payment for parking had already been made. The booking process was slightly delayed as internet was slow on the phone, but as shown below, the confirmation receipt indicates that payment was completed at 12:19.

Since the PCN was also issued at 12:19 (although it shows observation from 12:17 to 12:19), would it be sufficient to submit an appeal with the payment receipt, or should any additional explanation or evidence be included?

Thanks in advance!

https://imgpile.com/p/31kUk5Y

GSV: (51.6575285, -0.0479368)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8maF1KGHAJCLx9zm6?g_st=ic

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Thanks - Will go ahead and wait for DVD to come and then appeal no contravention has occurred whilst mentioning the video footage provided is inaccessible due to not having a CD player (like most in the UK). From the pictures provided no contravention has occurred. If they reject which they will, I will go all the way to tribunals.

Indeed it is, but you have to risk the full PCN penalty to find out. That's why so many people just cough-up; they only pay the discounted amount, and most people know nothing at all about the law and regulations on traffic and parking contraventions, and imagine it will all end in tears and they'll have to pay huge sums of money which, of course, is totally untrue.

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Video will be critical here.

I've tried to assess the position of the car in the first photo and it looks to be on the opposite side of the road to the electric vehicle bay, and a few metres further down the street.

Assuming I'm right, if he did stop there, that's either after he's already left or well before he manoeuvred into it.

Andy, if he did stop there, he'd likely be allowed a few moments to check signage before leaving too.

Thanks - Is it wrong to assume one could get the PCN thrown out at tribunal on the basis a video is key for evidence in this scenario as the pics provided do not prove an offence and TFL providing a DVD makes it inaccessible based on previous adjudicators rulings?

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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/tfl-and-dvds-their-technology-clock-is-ticking/

Just came across this thread - can it be used as argument if case gets to tribunal. As once TFL do send the video, my friend does not actually have anything to play a DVD on.

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Footage has been requested.

The woman on the phone said it’s for the stopping in the EV bay and not charging - would the PCN code be correct for such an offence?

Edit -

Just checked the sign does say Red Route expect electric vehicles so assume code 46 would be correct.

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Thanks - will tell him to request a video.

Feels silly that it has to be requested and this is the evidence they provide of a contravention.It should be a standard.

There could be a number of reasons why break lights are on in the middle of the road and for someone who could be driving a lot, how would they expect them to remember a situation from such an image.

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We need a bit more info. The first photo on the PCN clearly show he is in the traffic lane with his rear offside wheel in the central hatched area, with brake lights on. The second photo doesn't show his vehicle at all, just an approaching bus.  As its a red route, one must not stop, unless the traffic flow stops. Was he stopped waiting to enter the parking bay by the shops ?

The PCN is served under the Traffic Management Act and their only evidence is a video, so he could ring them ask for it. This will stop the enforcement clock for about 14 days whilst "quill pen and ink, and powdered wigs" Transport for London send it by post as a DVD. There is an ongoing row about this, because DVD readers on computers are now rare, and even London Tribunals are getting concerned at such unhelpfulness. Most councils nowadays put their videos on-line with access using PCN Number and car reg.

He isn’t sure himself and the picture doesn’t really help. I guess best option is to request a video. Only concern is if it doesn’t come in time will he lose the right to the discount? Also if it comes up by DVD, he will struggle to watch it as he does not have a DVD reader.

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Hi

Friend has received PCN below, he is unsure as to why. Any advice much appreciated.



Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MfwYvFGzL1xFJsaU7

I assume they are stating he was in the electric vehicle box which he said he was not.But even if he was pictures are not clear at all?

Thanks!

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Sorry, but IMG seem to have withdrawn from the UK, so you need to use another hosting site.

Just updated - hopefully that works.

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