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I searched previous cases, Unfortunately there are many instances where "inadequate signage" has been  refused. All side with the EA with the view that it's clear and that advanced signage is not required.

However there is one outlier in 2230544814:

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Mr Quinn-Smith appeals against this PCN because he says that the signage for the no entry to motor vehicles restriction in Leahurst Road is not adequate to alert motorists to the prohibited route.

I therefore have to consider whether the signage is in clear view of the approaching motorist with time for the motorist to process the restrictions and safely take evasive action. I have looked at both the CCTV footage and the still images submitted by the Council. In my judgement, there is a very real danger that the motorist will not see the no entry to motor vehicles sign until it is too late to safely take evasive action. As Mr Quinn-Smith says, the signage is "at the point of no return" where there is a traffic island preventing a safe manoeuvre to avoid the prohibited route. I accept Mr Quinn-Smith's evidence that he entered Leahurst Road from Orchid Close so that he did not pass the advance warning sign. I do not, in any event, consider that the advance warning sign, with a small roundel attached to a post on the far right hand side of a wide road 50 yards in advance of the restricted route, is an adequate substitute for clear signage at the point of entry.

Perhaps worth a shot?

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Any advice on this one?

PCN:






In my view the signage is inadequate. I missed the advanced warning sign and there is no way out of the trap if you see the nearest sign.

This junction has also had a number of changes recently:

  • There was a width restriction with gate in the middle.
  • They put planters in the width restrictions at first (during COVID).
  • Then opened the gate in the middle with a camera.
  • Recently they changed it again with the raised crossing point.
  • Now it's "no motor vehicles" at all westbound, vehicle weight restrictions eastbound

Another recent reports of this exact same location/PCN:


GSV shows the old signage, but there're updated images from the above thread:




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