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Private parking tickets / Re: Parking "Warning" Notice? Openparking
« on: December 22, 2025, 09:00:16 am »
On my previous post I had already replaced the image to reveal the date and time as requested. Unfortunately I'm unable to edit the post again, so I'll repost a further unredacted version of the PCN:



I can only apologise that the honest mistake (caused in haste) of blanking out the date/time information caused you such exasperation, and am grateful for all the useful advice you have offered so far, which I have followed. In other PCNs I've seen on this and other boards the location & car information has nearly always been blanked out, something I emulated as I assumed that was the norm.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parking "Warning" Notice? Openparking
« on: December 18, 2025, 05:24:03 pm »
Apologies, have replaced the image with unredacted info.

Probably didn't explain clearly enough either; this is a ticket that was left on windshield it wasn't posted to us. So I would assume they have no keeper info yet. I'll mark the date in the diary and go through their appeals process on day 27.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parking "Warning" Notice? Openparking
« on: December 18, 2025, 02:57:52 pm »
I have indeed been parking elsewhere since receiving that notice but unfortunately someone else didn't get the memo and returned with this:




There's still only one sign, which is nowhere near where the car was apparently parked, and is nearly always covered up by a parked car. There's no entrance signs/yellow lines/anything else to indicate it's private land which cannot be parked on.

There's no photographic evidence online so it seems like whoever did the notice didn't bother to take and/or upload any photos.

It's IAS not POPLA so is there any point at all to appealing, or should I just wait and see if they follow it through to court?

EDIT: Just to clarify I meant is there any point me doing the first stage appeal - I know appealing at the IAS stage is pointless.

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Private parking tickets / Parking "Warning" Notice? Openparking
« on: November 11, 2025, 08:31:29 pm »
I found this "PWN" on my car the other day.

https://ibb.co/wZg92Md5
https://ibb.co/QFWnb85N

The place where I was parked has one sign hidden behind some ongoing building works; if it was a charge rather than a warning it'd be the easiest appeal in history, but what I'm wondering is: Now I've been issued this warning could they then use that against me (although with the lack of CCTV they'd find it impossible to prove that it hadn't been removed by some other person and I'd never even seen it) if I was to park there again and they gave me a PCN the next time?

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I'll double check when I go take some extra photos but looks pretty cut and dry! Looking forward to wasting their money on a POPLA appeal :)

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Thanks, yea I'll head over there and get some photos. There's very prominent signage on the way out (see attached, from street view but it's not changed from what I can remember) but I guess the argument with that would be that you wouldn't know about it until leaving, by which time it'd be too late to reject the parking terms.

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Driver hadn't parked in the car park, was just waiting to pick up friend, so wasn't parked in a spot where there was a sign. Mrs Driver has already said they'll cough up but I wondered if there was anything I could appeal over? I've won a POPLA appeal before over inadequate signage at the entrance to a car park. You can see there's a sign there at the side of this one but maybe could I argue it's not very big and could be missed? Probably a lost cause but thought it might be worth a shot. Cheers for any advice


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Just a quick follow up to say the appeal was successful based on the grounds of inadequate signage. Minster Baywatch also emailed with the happy news. I replied to their email thusly:

"hahahahahahahahahahaha"

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MB did reject the initial appeal, I can't understand why - it's almost like they're financially incentivised to reject appeals or something.
Who'd have thunk it?  ;) They do have to pay a small fee if it goes to POPLA but not enough to discourage them too much.

Do let us know how you get on - if you're able to link to your MSE thread that could be useful reading for anyone who finds themselves in a similar situation in future.



I've just had a reply from POPLA with the evidence bundle:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1McjWmaXAu73Y6IzPhYpHkLJajMFW-EvY/view?usp=sharing

My initial reactions to it are:

  • Their photos show even better than mine that the car next to mine was blocking their one sign from the driver's view! (Also as below, how can they prove there wasn't an even bigger vehicle there when the driver first parked?)
  • I also wondered how could they prove that a big van wasn't parked right up to and covering that sign as the driver entered the car park?
  • The parking areas they've drawn at the end are completely arbitrary; there's no indication on site that the zones are demarcated in that way
  • They claim an entrance sign would be impractical, that seems a complete fabrication as there's a big blank wall at the entrance to which a sign could be attached?! Also the site clearly does permit general parking because without clear demarcation between the two 'sites' (as they've drawn it) then one has to assume there is only one site.


Obviously have posted this on MSE thread too, but would value greatly opinions from the kind people on this forum no less than on there!


Also here's the link to the MSE thread as asked: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6507676/malton-minster-baywatch-permit-parking-inadequate-misleading-signage


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Hi all, apologies for not replying until now I thought I had switched on notifications to this thread but clearly I hadn't.

Thanks to everyone for the comments and advice.

MB did reject the initial appeal, I can't understand why - it's almost like they're financially incentivised to reject appeals or something.

I've now made a POPLA appeal as well - the main focus was the absence of entrance signage, and the conflicting signs (permit/free parking) in the area with no clear demarcation between the two. Also of note was that in their full size evidence photo (sent with their appeal rejection) you can clearly see that the vehicle parked next to mine would directly block the driver's view of their sign.

As b789 noted I did also post on MSE but I will update here as well with the POPLA reply. Thanks again to all

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I received the below PCN from Minster Baywatch:

https://ibb.co/C5hf2cj

Date of alleged contravention was 03/02 and date of issue was 09/02

I've taken pictures of the car park & signs to show the signs in relation to where the car was:

https://ibb.co/fDwtC9Q
https://ibb.co/pPNM482
https://ibb.co/DQL1Fbp
https://ibb.co/qjvvhbf

I feel like it wasn't clear which space(s) the permit parking sign or free parking sign referred to. Also there was no sign at the entrance to the car park indicating  that I was entering an area with permit parking.

I think my "discount" period ends tomorrow - is it worth fighting this one or should I cough up?

Thanks in advance for any and all help

(Apologies for the links; I'm trying to embed the images but it doesn't seem to be working)

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