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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / PCN Danesmoor Road Manchester | Parked in a residents or shared use parking space without permit
« on: Yesterday at 11:23:40 am »
Hi all,
I recently received 2 Penalty Charge Notices (https://imgpile.com/m/5SokKKw) from Manchester council after parking on a suburban residential street for a number of days while I stayed in the city centre. The PCN was issued after I parked on Danesmoor Road, M20 3JS (https://maps.app.goo.gl/P4wSxuqY9mxDk4Vw5), which I have since found out is a residential permit holders area, but I believe that this is insufficiently signposted due to the direction of the sign. Would anyone have any advice on if this is worth appealing further after my first informal appeal was rejected, or should I just take the hit and pay at the reduced rate? My full explanation and grounds are below:
When I arrived I drove down Lyndhurst Road and turned right onto Danesmoor Road (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Em3NcXafKc4DRYPh9). After I parked I observed no yellow lines, and looked up and down Danesmoor Road after the junction with Lyndhurst Road for any indication that there were parking restrictions . On the junction of Lyndhurst Road and Danesmoor Road there is a sign (https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZbwxddtCrdWMZXSA6) facing Lyndhurst Road stating there are parking restrictions to the left of that sign (i.e. on Danesmoor Road going towards St Aldwyn's Road). As this sign had an arrow pointing to the left with no indication of restrictions to the right (i.e. towards Mayville Drive) I assumed there were no restrictions in place. The sign is admittedly slightly visible if you are completely on the left hand side of the road while turning right onto Danesmoor Road, however there are parking spaces on both sides of Lyndhurst Road meaning that you're forced to drive in the middle of the road until you turn.
However, the pole with the sign on has another sign 90 degrees clockwise around the pole showing that there are indeed restrictions on Danesmoor Road in the area marked with the black arrows. My grounds of appeal would be that this sign is not visible when turning right from Lyndhurst Road and there is no further signing along the area marked with a black arrow. My initial informal appeal rejection (https://imgpile.com/m/66U1vxZ) has stated that there is another sign on the junction of Lyndhurst Road and Holmwood Road stating that Holmwood Road is similarly residents permit holders, and therefore I should have known that Danesmoor Road has the same restrictions, but I fail to see how that can be a valid grounds for rejecting the appeal, as they're 2 different roads?
If anyone has any advice on next steps it'd be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
I recently received 2 Penalty Charge Notices (https://imgpile.com/m/5SokKKw) from Manchester council after parking on a suburban residential street for a number of days while I stayed in the city centre. The PCN was issued after I parked on Danesmoor Road, M20 3JS (https://maps.app.goo.gl/P4wSxuqY9mxDk4Vw5), which I have since found out is a residential permit holders area, but I believe that this is insufficiently signposted due to the direction of the sign. Would anyone have any advice on if this is worth appealing further after my first informal appeal was rejected, or should I just take the hit and pay at the reduced rate? My full explanation and grounds are below:
When I arrived I drove down Lyndhurst Road and turned right onto Danesmoor Road (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Em3NcXafKc4DRYPh9). After I parked I observed no yellow lines, and looked up and down Danesmoor Road after the junction with Lyndhurst Road for any indication that there were parking restrictions . On the junction of Lyndhurst Road and Danesmoor Road there is a sign (https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZbwxddtCrdWMZXSA6) facing Lyndhurst Road stating there are parking restrictions to the left of that sign (i.e. on Danesmoor Road going towards St Aldwyn's Road). As this sign had an arrow pointing to the left with no indication of restrictions to the right (i.e. towards Mayville Drive) I assumed there were no restrictions in place. The sign is admittedly slightly visible if you are completely on the left hand side of the road while turning right onto Danesmoor Road, however there are parking spaces on both sides of Lyndhurst Road meaning that you're forced to drive in the middle of the road until you turn.
However, the pole with the sign on has another sign 90 degrees clockwise around the pole showing that there are indeed restrictions on Danesmoor Road in the area marked with the black arrows. My grounds of appeal would be that this sign is not visible when turning right from Lyndhurst Road and there is no further signing along the area marked with a black arrow. My initial informal appeal rejection (https://imgpile.com/m/66U1vxZ) has stated that there is another sign on the junction of Lyndhurst Road and Holmwood Road stating that Holmwood Road is similarly residents permit holders, and therefore I should have known that Danesmoor Road has the same restrictions, but I fail to see how that can be a valid grounds for rejecting the appeal, as they're 2 different roads?
If anyone has any advice on next steps it'd be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards