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Nothing more than just curiosity but had a police officer seen the car cross that solid white line could that potentially be points and a fine?

Would I be wrong in hoping Spider misses the reduced period

UKPC has cancelled the parking charge. Thank you very much. https://imgur.com/a/QYQVUKF

Good evening. Just reminding about help for the POPLA appeal. Thank you.

Will do, thank you very much.

UKPC have finally responded. This time it wasn't a copy and paste from the last one. They also seem to have given up on asking for the driver details. Now, I'm not sure what's going on but Imgur keeps saying the file format is not supported and my Mac won't open it when I change the extension to .jpeg, but only this particular one, which is strange, so I have to just copy and paste their response.Thank you for your recent communication concerning parking charge reference *************.We have carefully considered your appeal based on the information provided and the evidence supporting the parking charge. In this instance having completed our assessment, we consider the parking charge to have been correctly issued, as the vehicle was not parked correctly in the bay markings.We appreciate that on occasion long wheel-base vehicles will park within car parks that we manage. As such a parking charge will not be issued, provided that the vehicle is parked reasonably within the confines of the length of a parking bay, or bays. However, it is our position that parking over the width of the bay is in breach of the terms and condition set out by the signage within the car park.UK Parking Control signage complies fully with section 18 of the British Parking Association Code of Practice. Entrance signage advises motorists that terms of parking apply, and that notices within the car park should be checked to identify the full terms and conditions. These notices are numerous and placed appropriately throughout the car park. It is ultimately the responsibility of the motorist to ensure they identify the terms of parking, and then decide whether to park their vehicle, or leave the site if they are unable to meet those terms.We would also contend that when a motorist enters a car park they should be at the same level of observance as when driving on a public road; When driving on the road, motorists are expected to be aware of signs when travelling at up to 70mph. In a car park, the typical driving speed is on average, much lower. We therefore contend that it is not unreasonable to expect a motorist to note the signs and to subsequently familiarize themselves with these.It is UKPC’s position that the signage installed on site is more than sufficient to bring the terms and conditions to the attention of any motorist, both in the clarity of information contained within it, as well as the number of appropriately placed signs on site, that a legally binding contract is formed between themotorist and the party offering that contract.Our appeals process is now concluded, you may now choose one of the following options:1) Pay the parking charge detailed above at the reduced rate of £60.00 to UK Parking Control Ltd. PLEASE REFER OVERLEAF FOR PAYMENT OPTIONS AND ADDRESS DETAILS.2) Make an appeal to the independent adjudicator POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals) using the verification code provided above. Please note that if you wish to appeal to POPLA, you will lose the right to pay the discounted rate of £60.00, and should POPLA reject your appeal you will be required to paythe full amount of £100.00. If you opt to pay the parking charge you will be unable to appeal with POPLA. Appeals to POPLA must be made within twenty-eight days from the date of this letter. To appeal with POPLA, please visit www.popla.co.uk. If you are unable to access the internet, you may appeal by post – this must be done using a POPLA postal form which may be obtained by contacting POPLA by phone (0330 159 6126) or post (PO Box 1270, Warrington, WA4 9RL).By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman Services (www.ombudsman-services.org/) provides an alternative dispute resolution service that would be competent to deal with your appeal. However, we have not chosen to participate in their alternative dispute resolution service. As such should you wish to appeal then you must do so to POPLA, as explained above.3) If you choose to do nothing the parking charge will automatically increase after thirty-five days from the date of this letter to £100.00 and the matter will be passed to our debt recovery agent, at which point you will be liable to pay an additional charge of £70, in accordance with the terms and conditions of parking, and further charges will be claimed if court action is taken against you. Any unpaid court judgement may adversely affect your credit rating.Yours sincerely,Appeals DepartmentUK Parking Control Limited

So I have asked her what caused her to forget and she said just that she felt like death for a few days and just simply forgot. So according to the letter she has until 24th January to pay the reduced charge of £30 for the fine and also £2.40 for the toll fee that should have been paid, so £32.40 in total and then it goes up to £62.40.So should she try a representation to the effect of apologising for her oversight, she felt poorly and that she is very willing to pay the £2.40 that should have been paid? Or best just to pay the reduced charge in case they don't re offer it after the 24th?

The girlfriend has gone through the northbound Tyne Tunnel. It is not a regular route that she takes and she just forgot to pay and then got this 'Unpaid toll charge notice' asking her to pay both the Class 2 (Tyne Pass) Toll fee at £2.40 and also the 'Unpaid Toll Charge' of £60.00. Is there anything she can do about this charge?Here are the front and back pages of the charge notice. This is the link to Tyne Tunnel Northboundhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/LJemy4NkDfvrtx2X6

Thank you for that. That has now been sent to UKPC

In fact, I've just noticed it's exactly the same as their previous response

They have taken some time but finally responded with:Thank you for your recent correspondence in relation to parking charge reference *************.To assist us in making a decision regarding your appeal, please confirm the full name and address of the driver to our Appeals Department within seven days of the date of this letter.Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 discusses the recovery of unpaid parking charges. It allows parking operators to hold the registered keeper liable to pay unpaid parking charges if the operator has not been provided the name and a serviceable address of the driver.This information may be confirmed by submitting another appeal on our website at www.ukpcappeals.co.uk, or by post to the address overleaf. Please ensure that if writing to us by post that you include the parking charge reference number and vehicle registration.Failure to provide this information will give us no alternative other than to make our final decision based on the previous information received. At this stage a POPLA verification code will be provided.The parking charge has been placed on hold whilst under appeal and may be settled in full at the current PCN rate of £60.00.

Haha, I’ll have that sent them as the reply then 🤣

A reply from UKPC has now been received. What would be the next step please?

If the appeal is won is the £35 fee from Enterprise refunded or is that lost regardless?

The options for 'appeal reason' are:Blue Badge HolderWorking on siteGenuine customer OtherSo 'other' has been selected and then 'Relationship to vehicle' has to be answered with the only options being:DriverRegistered keeperDriver and registered keeperSo what should be selected here?