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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: Karl on May 07, 2024, 05:05:16 pm

Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: DWMB2 on September 29, 2024, 06:04:18 pm
Excellent news, and the right result in my view (although I suppose I'm somewhat biased  ;D )
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on September 29, 2024, 05:20:10 pm
FYI, I received a PM today, informing me of the following:

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You've been offering guidance here for the past few months regarding a CCJ I had received without being made aware. Yesterday I attended the county court, where my CCJ was set aside and the initial claim (made by District Enforcement) was struck out entirely. It was also ordered that DE reimburse the fee I paid to make the application.

The judge commended me on the case I had put together and the evidence I had compiled. He called it 'very compelling' and asked if I had a legal qualification.

Hopefully @Karl will post a few more details in due course, such as the name of the judge and whether Gladstones sent a legal rep or not. If we could get some information on how the day in court went, that would be useful too. If Gladstones sent a legal rep, did they try to make contact before the hearing? Was the hearing in the judges chambers or in a full blown courtroom? How did the hearing proceed and so on.

We must be satisfied that this has cost DE/Gladstones much more than just the costs. They have had the CCJ set aside and also cannot recover their court fee, hearing fee and whatever they have paid to Gladstones. Gladstones will not be able to recover the cost of sending an advocate to the hearing either, assuming they sent a local "rent-a-legal" rep.

Great news for @Karl and also for any others contemplating a CCJ set aside.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on September 03, 2024, 02:50:48 pm
It matters not when the contract between the Management and the PPC was signed. Your Tenancy Agreement makes no mention of requiring a permit nor of any obligation to agree to third party terms outside of your agreement.

You can remove the words "subsequent" and "pre-existing" as they will make no difference to your WS.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on September 03, 2024, 02:32:13 pm
Is the wording of the below paragraphs temporal in nature?

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Since the Tenancy Agreement does not mention any requirement to display a permit or authorise a third party to issue parking charges, the terms of the agreement take precedence over any subsequent parking rules imposed by the managing agent or parking operator. In the absence of any such terms in the Tenancy Agreement, I did not consent to these rules and, therefore, cannot be held liable for breaching them.

The Claimant has not demonstrated that they have any contractual authority over the land or that their terms override my existing rights under the Tenancy Agreement. The Claimant’s assertion that the Tenancy Agreement has no relevance is a flawed interpretation of the supremacy of contract principle, which should protect my pre-existing rights against the imposition of new terms by a third party without my consent.

The contract between the property manager and the parking company predates in time the contract between myself and the landlord. Do the words 'subsequent' and 'pre-existing' have a temporal meaning or only hierarchical?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on September 03, 2024, 01:02:57 pm
I would submit the SWS by 4pm today. These are the rules according to the CPRs:

Here’s how this generally works under the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR):

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CPR 32.4(2) specifies that a witness statement must be served by the date directed by the court. This includes both initial and supplementary witness statements unless the court's directions explicitly differentiate between them.

Supplementary Witness Statements: These are additional statements provided after the initial witness statement, usually to address new information or respond to issues raised in the opposing party’s statements. Unless the court has specifically ordered otherwise, the deadline for supplementary statements is typically the same as for initial statements.

Court’s Discretion: The court has discretion to allow late submission of supplementary witness statements if good reason is shown (e.g., new evidence came to light). However, permission must generally be sought from the court, and a formal application may be required.

Practice Direction 32: Paragraph 27.2 of Practice Direction 32 requires that all witness statements, including supplementary ones, must comply with the court's directions, including deadlines.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on September 03, 2024, 12:55:06 pm
I have a 30-minute hearing on 27 September at Lincoln County Court.


As an aside, the deadline for submitting my defence in response to the order was today, 4pm. I submitted yesterday, as has been discussed above, and Gladstones responsed immediately.

If I am to submit a supplementary WS, would that have to be done before the end of today, or is it reasonable that responding to the Claimant’s WS will take time?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on September 03, 2024, 12:40:57 pm
It will depend on how much time you are prepared to spend on this matter. When is your set aside hearing date and which court?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on September 03, 2024, 12:39:01 pm
I am genuinely interested in this, for one reason especially.

I think I’ve said earlier in this thread, I feel the sense of justice in all of this is missing. I have felt from the start that I have been thrown into a position of defending myself when I see the whole case as proceeding from their predatory and borderline unlawful practices.

Far from just getting myself off the hook and avoiding paying any charges, what I really want is to see these companies scrutinised and reprimanded for preying on innocent people.

I noted earlier, I think, that there were others in my housing complex who had received similar notices and paid up immediately out of fear of their immigration status being affected, dor example.

These companies are absolute sharks and cowboys, in my opinion, and far above and beyond defending myself against their claims, I feel impotent that I cannot bring anything upon them!
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on September 03, 2024, 12:28:23 pm
On a separate note, you have grounds to sue both the PPC and the Managment Company for breach of your GDPR because by operating without any legal right to issue PCNs which are in breach of your Tenancy Agreement, the PPC obtained your data from the DVLA unlawfully. The Managment Company are jointly and severally liable for the actions of their agents.

If you were up to it, you could send them both a Letter of Claim for compensation and damages under the Data Protection Act 2018. You could also offer to not sue them if they co-ordinate between them to remove the CCJ at their own expense within a pre-set period.

Either way, if the claim is struck out, you can still turn the tables on both the PPC and the Management Company and sue them for damages under the DPA 2018. Something to look forward to is you're up for it.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: DWMB2 on September 03, 2024, 09:46:23 am
Don’t worry about their argument that 15 months have passed since the CCJ. What is relevant is when you discovered it. Just more rubbish from them.
This - they're using the 15 months to try to suggest you have not acted in a timely manner, which you are required to do. But you cannot act on something about which you are unaware (assuming that lack of awareness is due to a genuine reason and not ignorance, of course).

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Where applicable, the Client must ensure that all users of the Car Park agree to the terms of use that will include the displaying of permits in the front nearside windscreen of vehicles and the general rules applying to the conditions referred to in clause 4.1.
So, the property managers have signed a contract that requires them to curtail the rights granted to you in your lease - that's their problem. They also by your account haven't ensured that all users agree (partly it would seem, because they can't, having already granted you the right to park in your lease).

DE's argument is that the rights granted to you in your lease are irrelevant, because they put up some signs, and formed a contract with the property management (a contract about which you were unaware until this saga unfolded). They use more words to convey it, but it's essentially as daft as that.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on September 03, 2024, 09:35:06 am
Yes, that is clear, re: the poor quality of the PoC. Thanks for explaining. I was concerned that I may be over egging that pudding slightly.

The contract is redacted but only in a handful of places: to obscure the personal names of those who signed and to obscure the amounts that the client (property management) would pay to DE for things like signs and permits.

It is, perhaps, interesting to note that when I was finally issued with a permit to put in my car, it was nothing more than a square of printed paper with some basic details and then a space to handwrite the licence plate number, if I remember correctly, while the contract with DE stipulates the following:

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The Client will purchase vehicle specific permits solely from the Company which will be issued

to a permit holder, at a cost of [this has been redacted] per permit (plus VAT) and apply them as per clause 6.1.

Also in the section pertaining to permits is the following clause:

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Where applicable, the Client must ensure that all users of the Car Park agree to the terms of use that will include the displaying of permits in the front nearside windscreen of vehicles and the general rules applying to the conditions referred to in clause 4.1.

To reiterate, there was no such detail in my tenancy agreement, nor did I sign any supplementary contract or agreement pertaining to parking. In my Tenancy Agreement, only the following clauses regulated parking:

The very introduction to the contract, the first line after naming the parties:

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AND IS MADE IN RELATION TO PROPERTY AT:
[Address] and allocated parking space

And then under the heading "Cars and Parking":

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15. Cars and Parking
15.1. To park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Property, if applicable.
15.2. To keep any garage, driveway, or parking space free of oil and to pay for the removal and
cleaning of any spillage caused by a vehicle of the Tenant, his family, contractors or visitors.
15.3. To remove all vehicles belonging to the Tenant, his family or visitors at the end of the Tenancy.
15.4. Not to park any vehicle at the Property that is not in road worthy condition and fully taxed.

This is the only contract I signed, and as such, it seems perfectly clear and unquestionable to me that I am authorised to park in my allocated parking space. In fact, if this is not what the words "allocated parking space" mean, then we are speaking a different language entirely.

And thanks again for the input.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on September 03, 2024, 02:09:24 am
Don’t worry about their argument that 15 months have passed since the CCJ. What is relevant is when you discovered it. Just more rubbish from them.

Is the attached contract redacted at all? If so, at the hearing, mention this to the judge. It is highly likely that the copy provided to the court is not redacted and this is a serious no no on their part.

Is there anything in your tenancy agreement about requiring to display a permit or requiring you to obey rules made by a third party, not a signatory to the tenancy agreement?

Regarding the PoC, they absolutely do not comply with CPR 16.4. There is nothing whatsoever that states what the alleged breach of contract is. They just state that the defendant breached a contract. No mention of what terms in the contract were allegedly breached. How would anyone know they were for not displaying a permit. Maybe it was because the vehicle was not parked properly within a marked bay. Maybe it was because it was a Tuesday and on Tuesdays, only red cars are allowed to park in that spot. Do you see where we are going with this? Where is the “concise statement of the facts”? There is none.

The PoC simply say that PCNs were issued and not paid. How can anyone be sued simply for not paying an invoice from a private company without knowing what the invoice is for?

Regarding the claimants witness statement, you can add the following paragraph into your SWS with its own paragraph number and subsequent paragraphs re numbered accordingly:

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X. I respectfully submit that the claimant's witness statement should not be accepted by the Court, as it fails to comply with CPR Part 32 and Practice Direction 32. The statement has not only been signed by a legal representative who does not have firsthand knowledge of the facts and events described within the statement but is not even employed by the Claimant. According to CPR 32.4, a witness statement is intended to contain evidence that the witness would be permitted to give orally, which typically necessitates personal knowledge of the matters in question. Furthermore, Practice Direction 32, paragraph 18.2, stipulates that a witness statement should only include evidence that the witness could provide from their own experience or direct observation. Since the claimant’s witness statement does not adhere to these requirements, it lacks the requisite reliability and credibility, and I request that the Court disregard it accordingly. Should the Court decide not to dismiss the claimant's witness statement, I respectfully request that more weight be given to my witness statement, as it is based on firsthand knowledge and complies fully with the Civil Procedure Rules and associated practice directions.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on September 02, 2024, 09:17:02 pm
Thank you.

The WS was signed by a "Legal Assistant" with Gladstones.

Regarding their non attendance, in the email, they state the following:

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Without intending any discourtesy to the Court and the parties, the Claimant confirms further to the attached Witness Statement that it will not be attending the hearing.
 
We confirm the Court have been asked to consider the attached in place of the Claimant’s attendance and we await an order in due course.

And in the WS, the following:

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45. It is not the Claimants intention to actively participate in the Defendant’s application to set the Judgment aside by attending the hearing or instructing an advocate as this will involve additional costs, costs which it would be unfair to expect the Claimant to meet, given that they have acted both reasonably and proportionately to date and have complied with the pre-action protocol and CPR in relation to the service of the Claim Form. It is also the Claimants position that any costs associated with making the application, as far as the Defendant is concerned, should be met by them.

I have paid for the N244 application, and draft order that accompanied the N244 (provided by you) includes an order that the fee be reimbursed by DE.


Some points that may require further consideration.

1. With the Witness Statement, they have attached the contract between District Enforcement and the property management. This was signed in 2019, which predates my tenancy at the property. Does this preclude your arguments around Supremacy of Contract? Would this leave me only able to make the estoppel argument, if even that?

2. I am including again the PoC that I sourced from CNBC. Though neither DE nor Gladstones ever sent this, it appears to me to e somewhat more compliant than some of the arguments allege. Is this so, and does it significantly weaken my position? Note, even with this witness statement, they have still not included the PoC along with their evidence. This suggests to me that perhaps they are not too keen to defend it?

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Particulars of claim:
THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE WITH REGISTRATION XXXXXX (THE 'VEHICLE') PARKED IN BREACH OF THE TERMS OF PARKING STIPULATED ON THE SIGNAGE (THE 'CONTRACT') AT [ADDRESS], ON 12/04/2022, 15/04/2022, 29/03/2022, THUS INCURRING THE PARKING CHARGES (THE 'PCN'S'). THE PCN'S WERE NOT PAID WITHIN 28 DAYS OF ISSUE. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS THE UNPAID PCN'S FROM THE DEFENDANT AS THE DRIVER/KEEPER OF THE VEHICLE. DESPITE DEMANDS BEING MADE, THE DEFENDANT HAS FAILED TO SETTLE THEIR OUTSTANDING LIABILITY. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS £100 PER PCN, £60.00 PER PCN CONTRACTUAL COSTS PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT AND PCN TERMS AND CONDITIONS, TOGETHER WITH STATUTORY INTEREST OF £39.75 PURSUANT TO S69 OF THE COUNTY COURTS ACT 1984 AT 10.25% PER ANNUM, CONTINUING AT £0.13 PER DAY.

3. I presume the following claim, made in the WS can be disregarded. As you will see quoted below, the Claimant asserts that my application was not made promptly, given that 15 months had passed since the claim was issued. This is effectively moot, surely, since I assert that said claim was never properly served, even though they claim that it was.

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10. In the event that notwithstanding the above the court still wishes to consider whether or not to exercise its discretion with a view to setting the Judgment aside, the Claimant puts the Defendant to full proof that they have acted promptly and without delay in making this application and that they have a reasonable prospect of successfully defending the Claim if the matter is returned to Claim stage.

11. In respect of the first limb of the above criteria, in view of the aforementioned paragraphs, the date the Claim was issued and as 15 months passed before the Defendant made the application; the Claimant respectfully submits the Defendant has not acted promptly in making the application and for this reason, the application ought to be struck out.


Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on September 02, 2024, 06:12:59 pm
No need to CC in District Enforcement but no harm done. Probably that is what forced Gladstones to respond do quickly as they most likely got a panicky phone call from DE. They never attend a hearing but they will likely send a pay by the hour advocate on their behalf. If they don't, even better.

Who has signed their WS? Is it a paralegal from Gladstones or an employee from DE? Interesting that they have offered their own draft order for the set aside (not for the claim). They are on the back foot.

Assuming you have paid for the application (N244) they are not offering anything in their order except to agree to the set aside and that you submit a defence to the original claim. Do not accept that. You want your costs back and the claim thrown out or at least force them to comply with the draft order to your defence.

Regarding the points you noted about their WS... You could send a supplementary WS.

Just so you understand, here are some explanations to counter their points:

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34. The Defendant alleges that they were unable to respond to the claim as they did not receive the Court papers. Notices were served at the address provided by the DVLA. It is the Defendant’s obligation to ensure their details are correct and up to date with the DVLA and the Claimant cannot be prejudiced for their failure to do so. Further, the Claim Form was served on the Defendant at their last known place of residence pursuant to CPR 6.9.

DVLA data is provided for a single, very limited reason: to allow a parking operator to invite the registered keeper to either name the driver or pay the invoice, or to inform the registered keeper that they will be liable if they do not, as well as to notify them of their rights to appeal.

The system, known as 'KADOE' (Keeper On Date Of Event), provides a snapshot in time of the address to enable a parking firm to send a Notice to the registered keeper. Operators are only permitted to request this information from the DVLA once. Therefore, the operators CoP requires that reasonable steps be taken to ensure the address details are current before litigation. Even if a motorist later updates their V5C logbook with a new address (or if the DVLA fails to process a change in a timely manner, which is reportedly common), a parking operator will not be aware of this and cannot find out.

There is no safe assumption that a DVLA vehicle address is a valid address for serving a Defendant. The KADOE address is not provided as a 'court claim service address' and should not be relied upon, as it only indicates where the vehicle was kept at a historical point in time (which may not be where the keeper resides; it is simply where the car was 'kept').

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37. The Defendant alleges that their Tenancy Agreement makes no reference to a third party being able to issue parking charges or a requirement to display a permit. The Defendant provided a copy of the Tenancy Agreement for 9 Stratford House Road in support of their application. The Claimant submits that the Defendant’s Tenancy Agreement has no impact on their liability for the PCNs.

They would say that, wouldn't they. Use the following as your counter to that:

Supremacy of Contract:

You should argue that your Tenancy Agreement, which predates any alleged contract between the managing agent and the parking operator, has supremacy of contract. Since the Tenancy Agreement does not mention any requirement to display a permit or authorise a third party to issue parking charges, the terms of the agreement take precedence over any subsequent parking rules imposed by the managing agent or parking operator. In the absence of any such terms in the Tenancy Agreement, you should claim that you did not consent to these rules and, therefore, cannot be held liable for breaching them.

Landlord and Tenant Act 1987, Section 37 Compliance:

You can argue that, under Section 37 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987, any variation of the Tenancy Agreement that affects the tenant's rights must meet specific requirements. Section 37(5)(a) or (b) stipulates that, for a variation to be enforceable, it must either be agreed upon by at least 75% of the leaseholders or tenants, with no more than 10% dissenting, and be authorised by the court. If the managing agent did not follow those requirements as required by the Act when imposing the parking rules, you can argue that the purported contract with the parking operator is invalid and the original terms of the Tenancy Agreement remain in force.

No Evidence of Agreement to New Terms:

You should assert that there is no evidence that you agreed to any new terms that would allow a third party to issue parking charges or require a permit. If you did at any point show a permit, it was purely out of courtesy, not obligation. If the parking operator or managing agent did not inform you of these new terms or obtain you explicit consent, then you should argue that you are not bound by them. Without clear evidence of agreement to these new terms, you argue that the terms of the Tenancy Agreement prevail.

Estoppel and Legitimate Expectation:

You could invoke the principle of estoppel, arguing that you had a legitimate expectation based on the terms of the Tenancy Agreement that you would not be subject to additional parking rules or charges. Since you relied on this understanding when signing the Tenancy Agreement, it would be unfair to enforce new terms retrospectively without proper notice or agreement.

Challenging the Credibility of the Claimant’s Witness Statement:

Since the witness statement is signed only by a paralegal from the claimant's solicitor (if that is indeed the case), you should challenge its credibility, arguing that it lacks first-hand knowledge of the facts. You argue that the statement does not constitute substantive evidence to override the Tenancy Agreement, especially if it does not provide a clear basis for the claim that the Tenancy Agreement has no impact on liability for the PCNs.

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39. The Defendant avers the Claimant’s Particulars of Claim are deficient, however despite this the Claimant notes the Defendant has been able to produce a substantive application. In this regard, the Claimant believes the Defendant has not suffered any prejudice.

Non-Compliance with CPR 16.4(1)(a): You must emphasise that the claimant’s PoC did not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a), which requires that the particulars must include "a concise statement of the facts on which the claimant relies." If the PoC did not provide a clear and concise account of the facts that formed the basis of the claim, then it is deficient. The fact that you managed to produce a substantive application based on your own knowledge does not absolve the claimant of their responsibility to comply with this rule.

Lack of Sufficient Information:

You have already argued in your draft defence that the PoC were so inadequate that they failed to provide sufficient information for you to fully understand the case against you or to prepare a proper defence. This lack of detail forced you to rely on your own recollection and limited information, rather than being able to address specific claims made by the claimant. Therefore, you were prejudiced by not having the opportunity to respond to a properly articulated claim.

Prejudice to the Defendant:

You argue that you have suffered prejudice as a result of the inadequate PoC because you were not given fair notice of the claim against you. This is a fundamental principle of justice, as it ensures that a defendant has a fair opportunity to know the case they must meet and to prepare a defence. The fact that you managed to infer some details from the limited information provided does not negate the prejudice caused by the claimant’s failure to comply with the Civil Procedure Rules.

Requirement for Proper Pleading:

You must stress that the rules of court exist to ensure fairness and clarity in legal proceedings. Compliance with CPR 16.4(1)(a) is not optional; it is a mandatory requirement designed to provide a clear framework within which both parties can understand the case. The claimant's failure to meet this requirement should not be excused simply because you managed to put together a response based on your own knowledge and assumptions. Proper legal procedure requires that each party is given a fair and equal opportunity to present their case based on a clear and complete statement of facts.

Emphasise Legal Precedents and Principles:

You have already cite relevant legal precedents and principles that reinforce the importance of providing adequate particulars of claim with the CPMS v Akande and CEL v Chan transcripts. Courts have consistently held that providing clear and detailed particulars is essential for fairness in legal proceedings. By not adhering to these principles, the claimant undermines the integrity of the process and prejudices your ability to defend yourself.

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40. Notwithstanding the above, the Claim is issued via the County Court Business Centre which is a procedure specifically provided for in the Civil Procedure Rules. This only allows the Claimant to insert brief details of the Claim. In any event, the Claimant confirms that the Particulars of Claim contained sufficient information for the Defendant to be aware of what the claim relates to; namely:-
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i. The date of the charge;
ii. The amount outstanding;
iii. That it relates to a parking charge; and
iv. That it is a debt.

Requirement for Sufficient Particulars of Claim Under CPR 16.4(1)(a):

You must emphasise that, regardless of the method used to issue the claim (including through the CNBC via MCOL), the claimant is still required to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(a). This rule mandates that the PoC must include "a concise statement of the facts on which the claimant relies." The brief details allowed in the initial MCOL form do not exempt the claimant from their obligation to provide sufficient particulars to give the Defendant a clear understanding of the case against them. The claimant could have filed additional particulars after issuing the claim to comply with this requirement.

Ability to Provide Further Particulars After Issuing the Claim:

You argue that the claimant had the opportunity to provide further particulars of claim after issuing the claim via MCOL but chose not to do so. The Civil Procedure Rules allow claimants to serve more detailed particulars of claim within 14 days of the claim form. The claimant’s reliance on the MCOL’s limitations is not a valid excuse for failing to provide the necessary details. The claimant should have served a more detailed document to ensure the Defendant was fully informed of the case against them.

Insufficient Information Provided:

You assert that the information listed by the claimant as being provided in the PoC — such as the date of the charge, the amount outstanding, the fact that it relates to a parking charge and that it is a debt — is inadequate for understanding the full nature of the claim. For a claim to be properly articulated, the PoC should also include the specific facts and legal basis for the claim, such as:

The specific location of the alleged parking violation.
The terms and conditions that were allegedly breached.
How the Defendant is alleged to have breached those terms.
The basis on which the claimant asserts their right to impose and collect the parking charge.

You have already argued that without these crucial details, you were not in a position to understand the full nature of the claim or prepare an informed defence. Hence the draft order for the defence.

Impact of Insufficient Particulars on Your Ability to Defend:

You have already highlighted that the lack of detailed particulars prejudiced your ability to mount a proper defence. By only providing minimal details, the claimant has not given you a fair opportunity to understand the claim or gather evidence in your defence. This omission is significant, as it undermines the fundamental principle of fairness in legal proceedings, which requires both parties to have a fair opportunity to present their case.

Precedent for Adequate Particulars of Claim:

You have already referred to legal precedents where courts have held that even claims issued through MCOL must comply with the requirement for adequate particulars. Courts have made it clear that the use of MCOL does not relieve a claimant of their duty to provide sufficient information. The transcripts provided are persuasive appeal cases where claims struck out due to inadequate particulars, reinforcing the point that the method of issuing the claim does not excuse the claimant from meeting their procedural obligations.

Based on the above, you should file a Supplementary Witness Statement which makes it clear your objection to their draft order and highlights the failing in their WS. If you feel you can improve or expand on any of the points based on the information provided above, feel free to do so. I tis your SWS. If any regulars would care to add anything, they should mention in this thread.

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IN THE [NAME OF COURT]
CLAIM NUMBER: [Claim Number]
BETWEEN
[Claimant's Name] (Claimant)
AND
[Defendant's Name] (Defendant)

SUPPLEMENTARY WITNESS STATEMENT OF [DEFENDANT’S NAME]

1. I, [Defendant’s Name], am the Defendant in this matter and make this supplementary witness statement in support of my application to set aside the default judgment entered against me. I strongly object to the Claimant’s proposed draft order for the reasons outlined below and provide further clarification to counter the arguments made in the Claimant's witness statement dated [date].

Objection to the Claimant’s Draft Order

2. I unequivocally object to the Claimant’s proposed draft order and do not consent to it. The Claimant’s draft order is a blatant attempt to undermine my application for a set aside and avoid liability for the costs I have incurred due to their failure to serve the claim at my correct address. The Claimant did not respond to my request for an order by consent, which forced me to incur a higher application fee (£303) for a hearing without consent. The Claimant's draft order seeks to unfairly prejudice my position by imposing unreasonable conditions and attempting to absolve themselves of responsibility for the procedural errors they have made.

Response to Paragraph 34 of the Claimant’s Witness Statement

3. In paragraph 34, the Claimant suggests that I did not receive the Court papers because I failed to update my address with the DVLA, implying that I am to blame for the misservice. However, it is the Claimant’s responsibility to ensure that the court documents are properly served. The Claimant relied solely on an outdated address obtained from the DVLA, which does not reflect my actual address at the time the claim was issued.

4. DVLA data is provided for a single, very limited reason: to allow a parking operator to invite the registered keeper to either name the driver or pay the invoice, or to inform the registered keeper that they will be liable if they do not, as well as to notify them of their rights to appeal.

5. The system, known as 'KADOE' (Keeper On Date Of Event), provides a snapshot in time of the address to enable a parking firm to send a Notice to the registered keeper. Operators are only permitted to request this information from the DVLA once. Therefore, the operators Approved Operator Scheme (AOS) Code of Practice (CoP) requires that reasonable steps be taken to ensure the address details are current before litigation. Even if a motorist later updates their V5C logbook with a new address (or if the DVLA fails to process a change in a timely manner, which is reportedly common), a parking operator will not be aware of this and cannot find out.

6. There is no safe assumption that a DVLA vehicle address is a valid address for serving a Defendant. The KADOE address is not provided as a 'court claim service address' and should not be relied upon, as it only indicates where the vehicle was kept at a historical point in time (which may not be where the keeper resides; it is simply where the car was 'kept').

7. Further, the Claimant’s assertion that they cannot be prejudiced for my alleged failure to update the DVLA is misplaced. The default judgment was entered automatically via the MCOL system without any human intervention by the defendant or the court, due to improper service of the claim. I was not given a fair opportunity to defend myself because I did not receive the claim form, which was sent to an incorrect address. The Claimant’s reliance on CPR 6.9 is also disingenuous, as they did not take reasonable steps to ascertain my current address before serving the claim.

Response to Paragraph 37 of the Claimant’s Witness Statement

8. In paragraph 37, the Claimant dismisses the significance of my Tenancy Agreement, stating that it has no impact on my liability for the Parking Charge Notices (PCNs). This is incorrect. My Tenancy Agreement forms the basis of my rights to use the parking space and makes no mention of any third-party parking management scheme, nor does it impose any requirement to display a permit. My Tenancy Agreement has supremacy of contract.

9. Since the Tenancy Agreement does not mention any requirement to display a permit or authorise a third party to issue parking charges, the terms of the agreement take precedence over any subsequent parking rules imposed by the managing agent or parking operator. In the absence of any such terms in the Tenancy Agreement, I did not consent to these rules and, therefore, cannot be held liable for breaching them.

10. The Claimant has not demonstrated that they have any contractual authority over the land or that their terms override my existing rights under the Tenancy Agreement. The Claimant’s assertion that the Tenancy Agreement has no relevance is a flawed interpretation of the supremacy of contract principle, which should protect my pre-existing rights against the imposition of new terms by a third party without my consent.

Response to Paragraph 39 of the Claimant’s Witness Statement

11. In paragraph 39, the Claimant argues that despite their inadequate Particulars of Claim (PoC), I have been able to produce a substantive application, suggesting that I have not suffered any prejudice. This argument is wholly unfounded. The fact that I was able to file a set aside application based on my knowledge of the events does not absolve the Claimant from the requirement to comply fully with CPR 16.4(1)(a). If the PoC did not provide a clear and concise account of the facts that formed the basis of the claim, then it is deficient. The Claimant also failed to provide a copy of the original PoC following the allocation judges order dated [date].

12. The PoC that I managed to obtain from the CNBC were woefully deficient and did not contain a "concise statement of the facts on which the claimant relies." This inadequacy prejudiced my ability to understand the nature of the claim against me and to formulate a full defence. The court should not accept the Claimant’s attempt to shift the burden onto me when it is clear that they failed to meet the basic requirements for issuing a claim.

13. The rules of court exist to ensure fairness and clarity in legal proceedings. Compliance with CPR 16.4(1)(a) is not optional; it is a mandatory requirement designed to provide a clear framework within which both parties can understand the case. The claimant's failure to meet this requirement should not be excused simply because I managed to put together a response based on my own knowledge and assumptions. Proper legal procedure requires that each party is given a fair and equal opportunity to present their case based on a clear and complete statement of facts.

14. I have already cited relevant legal precedents and principles in my original witness statement that reinforce the importance of providing adequate particulars of claim with the CPMS v Akande and CEL v Chan transcripts. Courts have consistently held that providing clear and detailed particulars is essential for fairness in legal proceedings. By not adhering to these principles, the claimant undermines the integrity of the process and prejudices my ability to defend myself.

Response to Paragraph 40 of the Claimant’s Witness Statement

15. In paragraph 40, the Claimant contends that the limitations of the Money Claim Online (MCOL) service justify their minimalistic PoC and that these particulars were sufficient for me to understand the claim. This is misleading. While MCOL may have certain character limitations, the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR) do not absolve the Claimant of their duty to provide sufficient particulars to allow a Defendant to understand the case against them.

16. Regardless of the method used to issue the claim (including through the CNBC via MCOL), the claimant is still required to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(a). This rule mandates that the PoC must include "a concise statement of the facts on which the claimant relies." The brief details allowed in the initial MCOL form do not exempt the claimant from their obligation to provide sufficient particulars to give the Defendant a clear understanding of the case against them. The claimant could have filed additional particulars after issuing the claim to comply with this requirement. They failed to do so.

17. The claimant had the opportunity to provide further particulars of claim after issuing the claim via MCOL but chose not to do so. The Civil Procedure Rules allow claimants to serve more detailed particulars of claim within 14 days of the claim form. The claimant’s reliance on the MCOL’s limitations is not a valid excuse for failing to provide the necessary details. The claimant should have served a more detailed document to ensure that I was fully informed of the case against me.

18. The information listed by the claimant as being provided in the PoC — such as (a) the date of the charge, (b) the amount outstanding, (c ) the fact that it relates to a parking charge and (d) that it is a debt — is inadequate for understanding the full nature of the claim. For a claim to be properly articulated, the PoC should also include the specific facts and legal basis for the claim, such as:

The specific location of the alleged parking violation.
The terms and conditions that were allegedly breached.
How I am alleged to have breached those terms.
The basis on which the claimant asserts their right to impose and collect the parking charge.

19. Without these crucial details, I am not in a position to understand the full nature of the claim or prepare an informed defence. Hence the draft order for the defence.

20. I have already highlighted that the lack of detailed particulars prejudice my ability to mount a proper defence. By only providing minimal details, the claimant has not given me a fair opportunity to understand the claim or gather evidence in my defence. This omission is significant, as it undermines the fundamental principle of fairness in legal proceedings, which requires both parties to have a fair opportunity to present their case.

21. I have already referred to legal precedents where courts have held that even claims issued through MCOL must comply with the requirement for adequate particulars. Courts have made it clear that the use of MCOL does not relieve a claimant of their duty to provide sufficient information. The transcripts provided are persuasive appeal cases where claims struck out due to inadequate particulars, reinforcing the point that the method of issuing the claim does not excuse the claimant from meeting their procedural obligations.

22. CPR 16.4(1)(a) requires a "concise statement of the facts" on which the Claimant relies, which the Claimant failed to provide. The details given in their PoC were minimal and did not give me adequate information to understand the legal basis of the claim, the alleged breaches, or the specific circumstances relating to the PCNs. The Claimant had the option to serve further particulars after issuing the claim but chose not to, demonstrating a lack of diligence and procedural fairness.

Conclusion

23. For the reasons stated above, I respectfully request that the court dismiss the Claimant’s draft order and instead grant my original application for a set aside and for the original claim to be dismissed. Alternatively, should the court not dismiss the original claim, this will ensure that I have a fair opportunity to defend myself and that the Claimant is held accountable for the procedural deficiencies and errors they have made, including the improper service of the claim and the inadequate PoC.

Statement of Truth

I believe that the facts stated in this supplementary witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed: [Defendant’s Signature]

Date: [Date]

Again, send as a PDF attachment by email to the hearing court and the claimants solicitor (no need to also send to the claimant) and CC in yourself, making sure that the claim number and claimant v defendant names are in the subject of the email.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on September 02, 2024, 03:05:04 pm
Thank you for the extra detail.

Today, I submitted to the court as advised above, CC District and Gladstones.

After several months of effective silence from District and Gladstones, one hour after I sent this response to the court, Gladstones has replied with a Witness Statement countering my claim. Evidently they've been sitting on this. They have also stated that they will not be attending the hearing.

The Claimant has included in their statement a suggested order of their own in the event that my application be granted:

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a. The judgment entered on the 11th April 2023 be and is hereby set aside;
b. The Witness Statement of Joshua Reid stand as the Particulars of Claim and service of the
Claim be dispensed with;
c. The Defendant must file and serve a Defence to the Claim within 28 days of service of this
Order in default of which, the Claimant be at liberty to re-enter Judgment;
d. Upon receipt of the above, the Claim be allocated to the Small Claims Track with
standards directions, to be heard on the first available date within 56 days; and
e. There be no Order as to Costs.


Within the statement are also the following excerpts:

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34. The Defendant alleges that they were unable to respond to the claim as they did not receive the Court papers. Notices were served at the address provided by the DVLA. It is the Defendant’s obligation to ensure their details are correct and up to date with the DVLA and the Claimant cannot be prejudiced for their failure to do so. Further, the Claim Form was served on the Defendant at their last known place of residence pursuant to CPR 6.9.

and

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37. The Defendant alleges that their Tenancy Agreement makes no reference to a third party being able to issue parking charges or a requirement to display a permit. The Defendant provided a copy of the Tenancy Agreement for 9 Stratford House Road in support of their application. The Claimant submits that the Defendant’s Tenancy Agreement has no impact on their liability for the PCNs.

and

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39. The Defendant avers the Claimant’s Particulars of Claim are deficient, however despite this the Claimant notes the Defendant has been able to produce a substantive application. In this regard, the Claimant believes the Defendant has not suffered any prejudice.

and

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40. Notwithstanding the above, the Claim is issued via the County Court Business Centre which is a procedure specifically provided for in the Civil Procedure Rules. This only allows the Claimant to insert brief details of the Claim. In any event, the Claimant confirms that the Particulars of Claim contained sufficient information for the Defendant to be aware of what the claim relates to; namely:-
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i. The date of the charge;
ii. The amount outstanding;
iii. That it relates to a parking charge; and
iv. That it is a debt.

I'm happy to provide the entire document, of course, but with evidence, it totals 58 pages. The WS itself is 8 pages. If you would like me to attach in part or in whole, let me know how you would prefer I do so.


I suppose at this juncture, the Judge has received my Defence and the Claimant's WS, so I shall wait to hear from the court with regard to my next steps? Otherwise, attend the hearing as scheduled?

Any advice or guidance you have will be appreciated.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on August 31, 2024, 03:53:46 pm
Prepare a cover letter to accompany your submission. This letter should summarise what you are including in your response and clarify your position regarding the court's order. Here's a draft outline:

Address: Include the name and address of the court.
Reference: Mention the case number and names of the parties involved.
Subject Line: "Response to Court Order Dated [Insert Date of Order]"

Content of the Cover Letter:

Start by stating that you are the defendant in this case and that you are responding to the court order dated [insert date].

Point 1: Previously Provided Information:

Politely explain that the information requested by the court (specify the details here as discussed earlier) was already provided in your original witness statement for the set aside submitted on [insert date]. Reference the specific paragraphs where this information can be found.

Point 1: Previously Provided Information:

For example: "In response to the court's request for further information on [specific details], I respectfully submit that this information was already addressed in my witness statement dated [insert date]. For ease of reference, please see paragraphs [insert relevant paragraph numbers]."

Point 2: Claimant’s Failure to Comply:

Note that the claimant has failed to comply with the court's order to provide a copy of the Particulars of Claim (PoC). Indicate that you have managed to obtain a copy from the Civil National Business Centre (CNBC) and are attaching it for the court's convenience.

For example: "Despite the court's order for the claimant to provide a copy of the original Particulars of Claim, they have failed to do so. However, I was able to obtain a copy of the particulars, as filed, from the Civil National Business Centre, which are attached for reference and can be seen as being inadequate and fail to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a)."

Point 3: Draft Defence and Draft Order:

Confirm that you are submitting the draft defence as requested by the court. Also mention that you have included a draft order for the defence which is attached.

You might write, "In compliance with the court's directions, I am enclosing my draft defence and an attached draft order. These documents are attached as Appendices A and B, respectively."

Add the following also: "Bearing in mind the contents of the draft defence I respectfully suggest that the judge makes the attached order in support of which I also attach transcripts of two cases which support the proposition that the judge should make the order I suggest."

Conclusion:

Close with a statement indicating your readiness to comply with any further directions the court may have. Thank the court for its attention to the matter.


Attachments

Ensure you include the following documents with your cover letter:

Copy of the Court Order: Attach a copy of the court order you are responding to for reference.

Witness Statement: Attach a copy of the original witness statement if the court does not already have it, or simply reference it if it is already on file.

Particulars of Claim: Attach the copy of the PoC obtained from the CNBC.

Draft Defence: Include the draft defence as a separate document.

Draft Order: Attach the draft order that accompanies your draft defence.

Copies of the transcrits: Include copies of the CPMS v Akande and the CEL v Chan transcripts.


Filing Your Response

Format: Ensure all documents are clearly labeled and formatted according to the court's guidelines.

Submission: Make sure that all the documents are readable in a PDF format, including the cover letter. They should all be attached to a single email addressed to the court where the order was sent from and the hearing is to take place. CC in the claimants solicitor and also CC in yourself.

Include in the email subject line the claim reference number and the parties/ Eg. [District Enforcement Ltd] v [You] Claim ref: [Claim number] and in the body of the email simply state that the PDF documents are attached in response to the courts order.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on August 31, 2024, 02:48:58 pm
I will get back to you a bit later as i am busy right now but don’t send anything yet. Regarding the draft defence and draft order for the defence, you don’t add or remove anything from those. You only need to change the defendant and claimant names, claim number and type your name and date it under the statement of truth.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on August 31, 2024, 01:13:21 pm
Thank you for clarifying.

I note that the order from the judge included the following line:

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The court shall send to the Defendant with this order a copy of the Particulars of Claim filed by the Claimant.

But as far as I can see, no such copy was attached. I have the contents of the PoC, as copied earlier in this thread, only because I sought them from CNBC when preparing my initial Witness Statement.

Is this something worth including in my Defence, words to the following effect?

"While no copy of the Particulars of Claim (PoC) was sent by the court to the Defendant with the order, the Defendant has sought this information previously when preparing the Witness Statement for the Application to Set Aside."

Or should I not bother?

That aside, I believe I am ready to submit the following:

1. A response to the Judge's order
2. A Draft Defence (offered by you, b789, edited for relevant details)
3. A Draft Order (offered by you)
4. Judgment in the case CPM v AKANDE
5. Judgment in the case CEL v CHAN
6. Original Witness Statement submitted in the application to Set Aside
7. Original Draft Order submitted in the application to Set Aside

Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on August 31, 2024, 12:22:06 am
The first draft order was for the set aside. This second draft order is to go with the defence. There is nothing to defend as the PoC you showed us failed to state any facts, concise or otherwise and so failed CPR 16.4(1)(a) amongst other failures.

The defence states that there is an attached draft order to go with the defence.

You can state in a separate response to the judges order using the same headers as for the WS, respond to the order and also add the following comment referencing the order:

(a) has been answered in detail in the application WS.

(b) Is not alleged.

(c) Has been fully answered in detail in the application WS.

(d) See application WS.

“Bearing in mind the contents of the draft defence I would strongly suggest that the judge makes the attached order in support of which I also attach transcripts of two cases which support the proposition that the judge should make the order I suggest”.

Add the CEL v Chan and the Akande transcripts.

All this should be sent to the local court and a copy to the claimants solicitors, Gladstones.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on August 30, 2024, 11:20:32 pm
b789, thanks again for your advice.

Forgive me for returning to some basic questions at this juncture. I've been away from my laptop and thus the files that I submitted previously.

Your most recent guidance has left me a little confused. You attached a draft order, but this is different from the draft order I submitted along with my Witness Statement (both following your earlier guidance). Should I be submitting a second DO? Or amending the first DO?

And for the Defence, should I be adding the points from the Judge's order and your advice in your latest comment to the document you linked?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on August 24, 2024, 11:30:36 am
Thank you.

I will prepare what you have advised here and get back once I have.

I only wanted to reply at this moment to confirm that I did indeed submit the WS and DO exactly as advised earlier.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on August 23, 2024, 08:01:54 pm
Most of what has been ordered has already been submitted in your WS submitted with the N244. Can you confirm that you sent the WS I suggested, suitably amended, and if not, what exactly did you submit in the N244 and WS and draft order?

You can submit the following as your draft defence  and include the draft order for it too.

Short defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/e3ywca2o8vkrqxpy6bddn/Short-defence.pdf?rlkey=x1fukkeyi1w58l6x2axezmwid&dl=0)

Draft order for the short defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z8zcqfdncdoajgj4ag6a4/short-defence-orderP1.pages.pdf?rlkey=at98xmfwj0ehi3w9d0ia15ogp&dl=0)

The judge that issued the order appears to have been lazy and not read the WS provided with the N244 unless you submitted something different to what was suggested. Everything, except the draft defence was provided.

In the court order, (a) has been answered in detail in the application WS.

(b) Is not alleged.

(c) Has been fully answered in detail in the application WS.

(d) See application WS.

So, using the same headers as for the WS, respond to the order and also add the following comment:

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“Bearing in mind the contents of the draft defence I would strongly suggest that the judge makes the attached order in support of which I also attach transcripts of two cases which support the proposition that the judge should make the order I suggest”.

Attach the following transcripts:

CPM v Akande transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y631olc61z1slr6xfrdsk/CPM-v-AKANDE.pdf?rlkey=kltpojedcxiwarxr0sdfyjo05&dl=0)

CEL v Chan transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xy54utt9djv55xitfp7lk/CEL-appeal-transcript.pdf?rlkey=304syf9czf5arl3i1u1ircjln&dl=0)

Please show us what you intend to send before you do.


Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on August 23, 2024, 06:12:42 pm
I am currently on the road and only using a phone to post this. I will get back to this later when I have access to something more suitable to respond with.

Regarding the order from the allocation judge for you to provide a defence, that is impossible based on the PoC. In your WS for the set aside you will highlight that you moved before the claim was issued. The claimant can only request keeper details once and they should not be relied on as an address for service, especially if they had not received any response correspondence for a period of time.

The draft defence will be short and sweet together with a draft order for the claimant to submit further particulars as the original PoC fail to comply with CPR16.4.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on August 23, 2024, 03:03:57 pm
I have now received in the mail my court date.

In the letter, there is the following instruction:

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[...]The Defendant must deliver to the Court and to the Claimant a draft Defence to the claim, and if the Defendant does not comply with this order then the application shall be automatically struck out at that time.

[and...] the Defendant must deliver to the Court and to the Claimant a witness statement stating the following matters, unless they have already been stated within the Defendant's application notice or a statement filed with it:
a. Any allegation that, at the time when this claim was issued, the Claimant had a reason to believe that the address to which the CLaim Form was sent was one at which the Defendant no longer resided or carried on business, and if so, the reasons why.
b. Any allegation that the Claim Form, Judgment order or any other correspondence in connection with the claim was sent to the Defendant's correct address but was not received. (The Defendant should note that without supporting evidence to corroborate such a claim, the Court may not accept that there were problems with the delivery of mail.)
c. The date when the Defendant first became aware of the judgment against him and the reason for any delay in applying to set the judgment aside.
d. Any other circumstances which the Defendant will ask the Court to take into consideration in deciding the application.

With the initial application, my witness statement included much of this, as you can see above in this thread.

In my application, I dispute the validity of the parking tickets in the first place and also claim that the Claimant's application and any notice of the CCJ were not properly served.

First: The fact that this letter makes no mention of the validity of the tickets and talks only of the delivery of the notice—does this mean that the validity of the tickets is not going to be considered?

Second: Of the options given in the letter, my claim is point a. that the judgment was delivered to the wrong address. This letter asks me to provide evidence that the Claimant should have known I no longer resided at that address. I would suggest informally that as a private individual with my limited resources and lack of knowhow, I was able to find the Claimant's current address and that of their Solicitor in order to send them notice of my application. If I can do this, there is no reason that they, whose expertise is in precisely this area, should not be able to do the same. As for actual 'evidence', I'm not sure what I should provide? Or can I safely assume that the evidence I have already provided 'within the application notice or a statement filed with it' suffices?

Third: Point c. I became aware of the CCJ at the end of April, on the 26th, I believe. By the 9th of May, I had written to Gladstones to inform them of my intent, and by 18 June, I had submitted my application to CNBC. This is a period of almost 2 months, in the midst of which was a 14-day period where I had told Gladstones I would wait for their response. The rest of that time was spent trying to understand the process and what I needed to do and then gathering the evidence and compiling the application.

Am I safe to consider that this does not constitute a 'delay in applying to set the judgment aside'? Or do I need to defend myself here?


Any advice will be appreciated, because at this point, I feel all of my arguments have been made and any evidence submitted.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on August 21, 2024, 12:26:29 am
I have now received in the mail my court date.

In the letter, there is the following instruction:

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[...]The Defendant must deliver to the Court and to the Claimant a draft Defence to the claim, and if the Defendant does not comply with this order then the application shall be automatically struck out at that time.

[and...] the Defendant must deliver to the Court and to the Claimant a witness statement stating the following matters, unless they have already been stated within the Defendant's application notice or a statement filed with it:
a. Any allegation that, at the time when this claim was issued, the Claimant had a reason to believe that the address to which the CLaim Form was sent was one at which the Defendant no longer resided or carried on business, and if so, the reasons why.
b. Any allegation that the Claim Form, Judgment order or any other correspondence in connection with the claim was sent to the Defendant's correct address but was not received. (The Defendant should note that without supporting evidence to corroborate such a claim, the Court may not accept that there were problems with the delivery of mail.)
c. The date when the Defendant first became aware of the judgment against him and the reason for any delay in applying to set the judgment aside.
d. Any other circumstances which the Defendant will ask the Court to take into consideration in deciding the application.

With the initial application, my witness statement included much of this, as you can see above in this thread.

In my application, I dispute the validity of the parking tickets in the first place and also claim that the Claimant's application and any notice of the CCJ were not properly delivered.

First: The fact that this letter makes no mention of the validity of the tickets and talks only of the delivery of the notice—does this mean that the validity of the tickets is not going to be considered?

Second: Of the options given in the letter, my claim is point a. that the judgment was delivered to the wrong address. This letter asks me to provide evidence that the Claimant should have known I no longer resided at that address. I would suggest informally that as a private individual with my limited resources and lack of knowhow, I was able to find the Claimant's current address and that of their Solicitor in order to send them notice of my application. If I can do this, there is no reason that they, whose expertise is in precisely this area, should not be able to do the same. As for actual 'evidence', I'm not sure what I should provide? Or can I safely assume that the evidence I have already provided 'within the application notice or a statement filed with it' suffices?

Third: Point c. I became aware of the CCJ at the end of April, on the 26th, I believe. By the 9th of May, I had written to Gladstones to inform them of my intent, and by 18 June, I had submitted my application to CNBC. This is a period of almost 2 months, in the midst of which was a 14-day period where I had told Gladstones I would wait for their response. The rest of that time was spent trying to understand the process and what I needed to do and then gathering the evidence and compiling the application.

Am I safe to consider that this does not constitute a 'delay in applying to set the judgment aside'? Or do I need to defend myself here?


Any advice will be appreciated, because at this point, I feel all of my arguments have been made and any evidence submitted.

Thanks...
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on July 25, 2024, 01:31:14 am
That's great! Thank you.

So as long as I have with me whatever I submitted as evidence with my appeal, I should just be able to answer questions and reiterate my position, basically? No lengthy arguments required...
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on July 24, 2024, 12:15:36 pm
Assuming that the claimant does not discontinue before the hearing date, this short video explains how it will be in court. It's not Rumpole of the Bailey:

https://youtu.be/n93eoaxhzpU
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on July 24, 2024, 11:39:38 am
Good day, FTLA people.

Thank you for all the advice and guidance offered above.

I submitted my claim a couple of months ago and have now received a letter informing me that the claim has been passed to my local court and I will soon receive a date and place for a hearing.

What do I need to be prepared for when I attend the hearing? I have no idea what the procedure will be... Will I have to testify in some way? Or is it just a case of attending to hear a judgment that has already been made on the strength of the submitted claim?

Any advice is appreciated! Thanks
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on June 01, 2024, 11:57:24 am
In addition to the above, I have the following questions relating to the N244 form.

8. What level of judge does your hearing need? I have no idea.

9. Who should be served with this application? Do I put District Enforcement here, or their representative, Gladstones Solicitors?



Also, in a brief update, I received a letter today from Gladstones Solicitors in response to the letter I sent them earlier in the month.

The letter is in the thread above but was, in short, a request for them to make a joint application to have the the judgment set aside. Thanks again to members of this forum, and b789 in particular, for drafting that. They were given 14 days to reply, this period ending on 24 May.

The letter I received was dated 31 May and contained only the following:

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Rectification of Data (residential address)

Further to the above matter, and your email of 9 May 2024, we can confirm that your personal data has been reviewed and we can confirm we have carried our rectifications to the following information;

[my address]

We can further confirm we will now take the necessary steps to inform and Data Controllers/Data Processors of the above information, including our client. This is to ensure all parties hold accurate and complete personal data for you.


This seems like some sort of weird flex that they would ignore entirely the contents of my letter and send only this administrative reply telling me they have updated my address. Is there supposed to be some sort of intimidation coded in this?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 30, 2024, 12:17:51 pm
Thank you for the above. I've just realised that my reply did not post, so I'm trying again.

First. I do not have any dates other than those included in the timeline I've posted earlier in this thread. When CNBC emailed me the PoC, that didn't even have a date in it. The only date I have related to the court is the date on my credit report, which lists the judgment with the date of 11 April 2023.

This is presumably the date the Judgment was issued by the court? So I don't know when District Enforcement / Gladstones would have initially submitted to the court.

Second. Unfortunately, I no longer have the original NtKs. After believing that the matter was handled and having moved house since, I have not kept those documents on file.


I have read the drafts above and believe I comprehend them enough to know what they intend to achieve and enough to confirm that the information/claims within them are correct and applicable.

The only thing that I'm not entirely clear on is the timeline and the responsibility on the claimant's end regarding knowledge of my address. It seems they may have begun the court proceedings before 12 months had passed from the initial parking event. Indeed it even seems they may have intentionally done so just before that 12-month period expired. Have they been clever there? Does this undermine that element of my claim?


I have the N244 form, sent to me by CNBC. I am going through that form now, but I will likely need some guidance on how best to fill in certain sections that will help or not harm my case. For example, do I request a hearing, an online hearing or no hearing? Would one answer be more in my favour than others?

Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 27, 2024, 04:20:05 pm
This is the proposed draft order:

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Draft Order:

CLAIM No: XXXXXXX


BETWEEN: 
DISTRICT ENFORCEMENT LIMITED (Claimant)


-- and --


XXXXXXX (Defendant)

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DRAFT ORDER

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IT IS ORDERED THAT:
 
UPON considering the application of the Defendant to set aside the Judgment by default entered on [date];

AND UPON reading the evidence in support of the application;

AND UPON the court taking note that the Claimant was not entitled to default judgment, having failed to serve on Defendant's usual residential address (CPR 13.2);

AND UPON more than 4 months having passed from issue of proceedings [date] (CPR 7.5);

AND UPON the Particulars of Claim fail to state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action (CPR 16.4(1)(e));

AND UPON the Claimants attempt to claim an unlawful amount constitutes an abuse of process (PoFA 4(5), CPR 1.1, CPR 3.4(2)(a) and (b) and CPR 27.14;

IT IS ORDERED:

1.      The Judgment by default entered against the Defendant on [date] is hereby set aside.

2.      The claim be struck out as more than 4 months has passed from issue of proceedings [date].

3.      The claim be struck out for failing to state a coherent cause of action.

4.      The claim be struck out for abuse of process.

5.      Costs of the application be paid by the Claimant to the Defendant in the sum of £303.

Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 27, 2024, 04:11:27 pm
I have put together a draft WS for the order. Have a look at it and add the necessary details such as addresses and dates where necessary. Once done, every paragraph must be numbered sequentially.

This is not all you need. There is also a draft order which I will provide for review before anything is sent.

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District Enforcement Limited

V

XXXXXXX
 
Claim number  XXXXXXX

WITNESS STATEMENT 

I, [full name], of [current address], will say as follows: 

1. I am the Defendant in this matter and I make this witness statement in support of my application to set aside the County Court Judgment (CCJ) entered against me on DD/MM/YYYY, in default due to a defective service of Claim. 

2. I was not aware of the claim made against me until I recently checked my credit report and noticed that my credit score was in decline. Upon further research, I became aware that a CCJ had been issued against me in default for the sum of £685 relating to alleged parking events in March and April 2022.



BACKGROUND TO THE ALLEGED DEBT

3. In 2022, I lived in rented accommodation [old address] [exhibit #]. After residing there and parking in my designated parking space for approximately 6 months, I received a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) from the Claimant. I assumed a mistake had been made and contacted the the Claimant to ask them to cancel the charge. The Claimant replied that no error had been made and that I would have to pay, because I had not displayed a permit in my car. At the time, I was not aware that a permit was required. I did not have a permit. When I moved in, I had been shown where to park but told nothing about parking permits. I had received no other communications about parking permits up to the point that I receive the PCN.

4. In the time it took me to query the Claimant about the initial PCN, receive the Claimants response and chase up my landlady for a permit, I received two more PCNs for the same reason; no permit displayed. This was in the space of two weeks and the charges now totalled £300. I approached the site manager for the property and explained what had happened. He was surprised and told me that he would follow up. He came back to me to say that the charges had been dealt with and that the contract with the Claimant had been terminated, as it turned out that other residents had had similar experiences and the site management were not happy about it. I took that as good news, and I heard nothing more about the PCNs. I moved house approximately 3 or 4 months later.



IPC CODE OF PRACTICE AND CPR FAILURES

5. The Claimant has an old address at which I no longer reside on file and I believe that this is where the Claimant served the claim which is a clear breach of both the CPRs and the industry Code of Practice. These facts and issues are explained further, below.

6. The Claimant had a duty to take reasonable steps to check for the correct address, in accordance with the IPC Code of Practice v8 at 22.1 and CPR 6.9, as more than 12 months have passed since the Parking Charge Notices (PCN) on 29/03/2022, 12/04/2022 & 15/04/2022 and the CCJ on DD/MM/YYYY.

7. I have not received any claim form or detailed particulars of the claim regarding this matter until I became aware as per paragraph 2 above.

8. Whilst I am unsure exactly which date the claim was issued, it has been more than four months since the CCJ was issued, during which time I have not been aware of the claim or the CCJ. As per CPR 7.5, the claim should now be dismissed. 

9. I believe that I have a strong defence to the claim and that it is without merit as I have evidence, in the form of my Tenancy Agreement at the time which makes no reference to any third party being able to issue parking charges nor any requirement to display a permit. [exhibit tenancy agreement or relevant section on parking]

10. Should it not be dismissed despite the wealth of case law below that supports the claim being dismissed at the set aside hearing, I should (at the very least) have the opportunity to defend it properly.  My application relies upon the 'mandatory set aside' rule in CPR 13.2 (in the alternative, CPR 13.3). 

11. I have set out the grounds for my application in the attached draft order.

THE CLAIM SHOULD BE STRUCK OUT


12. The Particulars of Claim (PoC) in the extant case are blatantly in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". I am unable, on the basis of the PoC as provided by the Civil National Business Centre (CNBC), to understand with certainty what cause of action, liability basis, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond to such an incoherently pleaded case had I received the claim. The particulars of the claim allege a breach of contract terms and conditions for parking at [old address] on 29/03/2022, 12/04/2022 & 15/04/2022. I am only aware that they relate to “failure to display a permit” as I queried the first PCN at the time. 


13. There is now a persuasive Appeal judgment to support striking out the claim (in these exact circumstances of typically poorly pleaded private parking claims, and the extant PoC seen here are far worse than the one seen on Appeal).  I believe that dismissing this meritless claim is the correct course, with the Overriding Objective in mind.  Bulk litigators (legal firms) should know better than to make little or no attempt to comply with the Practice Direction.  By continuing to plead cases with generic auto-fill unspecific wording, private parking firms should not be surprised when courts strike out their claims based in the following persuasive authority.

14. A recent persuasive appeal judgment in Civil Enforcement Limited v Chan (Ref. E7GM9W44) would indicate the PoC fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(e) and Practice Direction Part 16.7.5. On the 15th August 2023, in the cited case, HHJ Murch held that 'the particulars of the claim as filed and served did not set out the conduct which amounted to the breach in reliance upon which the claimant would be able to bring a claim for breach of contract'. The same is true in this case and in view of the CEL v Chan judgment, the Court should strike out the claim, using its powers pursuant to CPR 3.4. [exhibit CEL v Chan judgment]


15. Additionally, the Claim should be struck out on the basis that it contravenes Schedule 4, Paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA). PoFA clearly stipulates that a creditor may not make a claim against the keeper of a vehicle for more than the amount of the unpaid parking charges as they stood when the notice to the driver was issued. The original PCNs issued by the Claimant were for £100 each. The default judgment for this claim was for £685, which far exceeds the amount of the unpaid parking charges as stated in the original notices. The claimant’s attempt to claim an unlawful amount constitutes an abuse of process and should not be allowed to proceed. I respectfully request the court to dismiss the claim on the basis of the Claimant’s contravention of Schedule 4, Paragraph 4(5) of PoFA and thereby CPR 1.1, CPR 3.4(2)(a) and (b) and CPR 27.14 and to award costs to for having to defend against this improper claim.


16. In any case, the original PCNs should not have been issued and the claim is invalid.



THE CLAIMANT FAILED TO SERVE THE CLAIM

17. I understand that the Claimant obtained a Default Judgment against me as the Defendant on DD/MM/YYYY. I am aware that the Claimant is District Enforcement Limited and that the assumed claim is in respect of unpaid Parking Charge Notices. 

18. CPR 6.9 stipulates that an "Individual" should be served at their "Usual or last known residence."  As I have not had any correspondence in relation to this matter, other than the brief case details emailed to me on DD/MM/YYYY from the courts, I am unsure of the specific dates that the claim was made. Nonetheless, it is clear that the Claimant, having obtained a previous address from the DVLA and having received no response since my initial enquiry, did not perform the requisite “reasonable diligence"  required to find my correct address to serve the claim form in. Had reasonable diligence been taken, my personal details are found in multiple public sources, such as DVLA, HMRC and credit reference agencies. The claimant did not have any contact with the defendant for over 12 months and thus should have considered they had incorrect details. It appears that the claimant continued to issue correspondence to the incorrect address intentionally, in line with the concerns raised by the government regarding  this abhorrent industry (Relevant case law cited below in paragraphs 29 - 34).

19. The claim form was not served at my current address, thus I was not aware of the Default Judgment until I checked my credit report as mentioned in paragraph 2 on DD/MM/YYYY. This is a breach of CPR 13.2(a) as the claim form was never served to my current address. Due to this, the judgement was wrongly entered as I was unable to submit an acknowledgement of service in the absence of notification of the case (CPR 13.3).

20. The address that the Claimant has on file is [old address]. I moved from this address to my current address at [current address] in MMM YYYY. In support of this, I can provide a copy of my [mortgage agreement/AST] showing my updated address.

21. According to publicly available information, my circumstances are far from unique. The industry’s persistent failure to use correct and current addresses results in an unnecessary burden for individuals and the justice system across the country.



THE INTERNATIONAL PARKING COMMUNITY CODE  WAS NOT FOLLOWED

22. International Parking Community (IPC) Code of Practice which requires a soft trace to be undertaken was not followed. The IPC Code of Practice - Version 8, 1st July 2021, clause 22.1 states; 

23. Operators must take reasonable steps to ensure that the motorist’s details are still correct if 12 months have passed from the Parking Event before issuing court proceedings”



DVLA ADDRESS DATA MAY NOT BE RELIABLE

24. DVLA data is provided for a single (very limited) reason, so a parking operator can invite the registered keeper to name the driver or pay the invoice or inform the registered keeper they will be liable if not, and notify of appeal rights.

25. The system, called 'KADOE' (Keeper On Date Of Event), is a brief 'snapshot in time' address to enable a parking firm to send a Notice to the registered keeper. Operators are only allowed to ask the DVLA once, hence the code of practice requires reasonable steps are taken to check address details are current before litigation. Even if a motorist later updates a VC5 logbook with a new address (as in this case or if the DVLA fails to process a change in a timely manner, which is reportedly common) a parking operator will not know, nor be able to find that out. 

26. There is no safe presumption that a DVLA vehicle address is a valid address where a Defendant can be served. The KADOE address is not provided as a 'court claim service address' and should not be relied upon, as it is only an address where the vehicle was kept at a historical point in time (which may not be where the keeper lives; it is where the car was ‘kept').

27. Considering the above, I was unable to defend this claim. I believe that the Default Judgment against me was issued incorrectly and thus should be set aside, and I ask the Court to kindly consider the reimbursement of the fee of £303 from the claimant should this request be successful. 

28. There is a wealth of case law making reference to the failures of parking companies to correctly ascertain the addresses of defendants. Of note: 

29. In Collier v Williams [2006] 1 WLR 1945 (CA) LJ Dyson said; 

30. "What state of mind in the server is connoted by the words "last known"? …As we have said, there is an important distinction between belief and knowledge. It is a distinction particularly well understood in the criminal law, but elsewhere too. The draftsman of the rules deliberately chose the word "known". In our view, knowledge in this context refers to the serving party's actual knowledge or what might be called his constructive knowledge, i.e. knowledge which he could have acquired exercising reasonable diligence. We arrive at this conclusion on the basis of what we understand the words to mean. We do not believe that there are any policy reasons which require us to give the words a strained or unusual meaning. The risk of satellite litigation is inherent in whatever interpretation is adopted. It is true that a defendant who has not in fact received the claim form should have no difficulty in setting aside a default judgment. But it is not desirable that defendants should be put to the trouble and expense of making applications to set aside default judgments." 

31. The same sentiment was echoed by;

32. HHJ Hacon in MB Garden Buildings Ltd v Mark Burton Construction Ltd & Anor [2014] EWHC 431 (IPEC) (28 February 2014) 

33.  HHJ Behrens in Broadside Colours And Chemicals Ltd, Re (No 2) [2012] EWHC 195 (Ch) (20 February 2012) 

34. In Broadside Colours And Chemicals Ltd, Re (No 2) [2012] EWHC 195 (Ch) (20 February 2012) it would appear that obtaining the information from a source that an individual is required by law to keep updated is adequate knowledge. However, I would submit that it is incumbent to have recent knowledge and not outdated knowledge as HHJ Hacon put it in MB Garden Buildings Ltd v Mark Burton Construction Ltd & Anor [2014] EWHC 431 (IPEC) (28 February 2014) 

35. As it was put in Dubai Financial Group Llc v National Private Air Transport Services Company (National Air Services) Ltd [2016] EWCA Civ 71 (09 February 2016) by LJ McCombe;

36. “If a defendant has never become under a valid obligation to acknowledge service, either as specified under the rules or by order of the court, I do not see how it can be that a judgment can be entered against him in default of such acknowledgment. He is simply not in default at all.”



THE CLAIM HAS EXPIRED UNSERVED

37. I HEREBY CHALLENGE THE JURISDICTION OF THE COURT TO HEAR IT NOW (EFFECTIVELY THAT WOULD MEAN DISPENSING WITH SERVICE). THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES TO SUPPORT THE VERY LIMITED COURT DISCRETION TO RETROSPECTIVELY VALIDATE DEFECTIVE SERVICE BY RESURRECTING AN EXPIRED AND UNSERVED (AND HOPELESS) CLAIM.

38. Service of the claim form on an old address constitutes defective service and the claim has expired unserved.  The Claimant currently has no claim because it was not properly served within 4 months and is time barred.


39. Continuing an expired unserved claim more than 4 months after it was raised (but never properly served) is impossible under any rule of law or practice (CPR 7.5).  


40. The Claimant is wholly responsible for failing to serve the claim correctly within the 4 months (as required by CPR 7.5) and as a result this claim has expired unserved.

41. The Claimant should not be given extra opportunities to waste the Court’s time after failing to follow pre-action protocols for debt claims, breaching the IPC code of practice and the CPRs about taking 'reasonable steps' (CPR 6.9) to check a Defendant's address.
 

42. If the Claimant believes they still have a claim then filing afresh is the only way forward. The Claimant may send a ‘Letter Before Claim’ to the right address, this time following the pre-action protocol for debt claims. The court is reminded that I have received nothing to build any defence on. No claim form and no detailed particulars of the claim have ever been received at my current address.  


43. This claim should be struck out as more than 4 months have passed (CPR 7.5 refers) from issue of proceedings [date] and service of the claim was defective (i.e. it was never served).
  

44. A Court's discretionary power to validate a defectively served claim is very limited, and only applies where there is ‘good reason’ for the court to exercise the power so conferred.  There is no ‘good reason’ to retrospectively validate the claimants’ service under Rule 6.15.  Further, whilst Rule 6.16 does create a power for a court to dispense with service of the claim form, this only applies in 'exceptional circumstances' and this does not apply in my case.


45. Tests were established by Lord Sumption’s analysis in Barton v Wright Hassall LLP [2018] 1 WLR 1119 and I have answered those questions in respect of my own case below:


46. Did the claimant take reasonable steps to effect service in accordance with the rules?


47. In my case, no.  An old DVLA address obtained months or years earlier is not a reliable address for service.  Indeed the DVLA do not sell 'keeper data' with any warranty that it can be used or relied upon for service of court papers to a motorist; it is merely a snapshot in time of where a vehicle was once registered.


48. Addresses change frequently and the parking industry and DVLA know this; hence the International Parking Community's Code of Practice requires steps to be taken to ascertain any new address prior to litigation. Parking operators are not allowed to rely upon DVLA data for litigation purposes and must undertake a Credit Reference Agency 'soft trace' before issuing a claim.

49. Were the defendants aware of the contents of the claim form at the time when the time for service expired?


50. In my case, no. I have only just received the particulars from the CNBC (requested in May 2024 – [exhibit PoC here] and I knew nothing about any outstanding parking charge.


51. What, if any, prejudice would I suffer by the retrospective validation of a non-compliant service of the claim form, bearing in mind what I knew about its contents?


52. The above answer is repeated. It would cause huge detriment for me to have to spend time and money to defend a meritless parking charge when I was under no obligation to display a permit or answer to a third party, unregulated private parking company when parking in my own demised parking space as evidenced by the terms of parking in my tenancy agreement. [exhibit clause from tenancy agreement]



FURTHER RELEVANT CASE LAW ON EXPIRED UNSERVED CLAIMS


53. There are several authorities, including the judgment in Boxwood [2021] EWHC 947 (TCC), which are reminders of the strictness of the requirements of CPR 7.6 and how difficult it is to use other parts of the Civil Procedure Rules to rectify a failure to serve the claim form within the requisite period: “A claimant is not entitled to rely on the wide, general powers under CPR 3.10 or CPR 3.9 to circumvent the specific conditions set out in CPR 7.6 (3) for extending the period for service of a claim form.”  


54. In the judgment of Deputy Master Marsh in Croke & Anor v National Westminster Bank Plc & Ors [2022] EWHC 1367 (Ch), the claimant was one day late in properly serving the Particulars of Claim to the Defendant and the claimant’s application for relief from sanctions was refused. In section 65 of the transcript of the trial, Deputy Master Marsh stated, “The defendants were entitled to know within the four month period specified in the CPR whether a claim had been made against them and to be able to understand that claim. [...] Unless an extension of time is granted, the claim will cease to have any validity and will be struck out."
 

55. In Piepenbrock-v-Associated News Limited [2020] EWHC 1708 (QB), the High Court refused the Claimant’s application for a retrospective extension of time to serve a Claim Form after the Claimant failed to demonstrate they took all reasonable steps to serve the Claim form in the period of its validity.  


56. “Ultimately, the problem was that the Claimant had made no attempt to serve in accordance with the rules. [...] Although I sympathise with the Claimant that the consequences for him of the error of not validly serving the Claim Form will be serious, there is nothing that really separates his case from many others who have made similar mistakes when attempting to serve a Claim Form. [...] I am afraid, in this case, the responsibility for the failure validly to serve the Claim Form rests solely with the Claimant’s side [...] 
 

57. In light of my conclusions above, having refused the applications made under CPR 7.6, 6.15 and 6.16, there is not a residual self-standing power available under CPR 3.9 to relieve the claimant of the “sanction” that, as a result of his failure to validly to serve the Claim Form during its period of validity, it has now lapsed. The term “sanction” is inapt because it would, in theory, be possible for the Claimant to issue and validly serve a fresh Claim Form. The obstacle standing in the way of a claim is not any sanction imposed by the Court but the fact that the limitation period for defamation and malicious falsehood has expired. [...] 

58. Finally, the Claimant seeks an order under CPR 3.10 remedying his error in not validly serving the Claim Form. The Defendants submit that CPR 3.10 cannot rescue the Claimant. This general provision does not enable the Court to do what CPR 7.6(3) forbids: Vinos -v- Marks & Spencer plc [2001] 3 All ER 784; [2001] CP Rep 12 [20]. [...]  


59. The Claim Form was not served during its period of validity. In consequence, the Court has no jurisdiction over the Claimant’s claim. It follows that I should also formally dismiss the Claimant’s application for summary judgment.”  


60. In Vinos v Marks & Spencer plc [2001] 3 All ER 784, the Court of Appeal considered whether any extension of time should be granted under CPR 7.6 in circumstances where the defendant had been notified of the issue of a claim form but the claim form had not been served within four months as required by CPR 7.5 and the application was made after expiry of that period. The court refused to grant relief on the basis that it did not have the power to do so.  


61. CPR 12.3(1) states that a claimant may obtain judgment in default of an acknowledgement of service only if at the date on which judgment is entered (a) the defendant has not filed an acknowledgement of service or a defence to the claim (or any part of the claim); and (b) the relevant time for doing so has expired. In this case, the claim form was not validly served in [month/year] due to failure to check for a current address (CPR 6.9 (3)), therefore the time limit for acknowledging service has not begun. As the time limit has not begun it cannot have expired. As the time limit has not expired the condition in CPR 12.3(1)(b) has not been satisfied. This results in a mandatory set aside (CPR 13.2). It follows that if a claim is set aside for failure to be served, then the claim cannot be resurrected and served again after 4 months has passed from the date of filing pursuant to CPR 7.5(1). This is on point with the court of appeal in Dubai Financial Group Llc v National Private Air Transport Services Company (National Air Services) Ltd [2016] EWCA Civ 71 (09 February 2016):
 

62. “Moreover, I do not consider that the CPR presents an obstacle in the circumstances of this case to setting aside judgment. CPR 13.2 provides that the court must set aside a default judgment where any of the conditions in rule 12.3(1) and 12.3(3) was not satisfied. The latter provision does not apply, but the former is relevant. CPR 12.3(1) states that a claimant may obtain judgment in default of an acknowledgement of service only if (a) the defendant has not filed an acknowledgement of service or a defence and (b) the relevant time for doing so has expired (my italics). I accept Mr McLaren's argument that when an order for retrospective validation of an alternative method of service has been made pursuant to CPR 6.15(2) the relevant time for filing an acknowledgement of service is the period which the court must specify under CPR 6.15(4)(c). Where, as in this case, the court did not specify any such time there can be no relevant time which has expired for the purposes of CPR 12.3(1). If this analysis is correct the requirements of CPR 12.3(1)(b) have not been satisfied and so the court is obliged to set aside the default judgment pursuant to CPR 13.2(a).  


63. I do not see it as a draconian consequence that a judgment, obtained after deemed service has been effected without specifying a time for that service to be acknowledged, should be set aside as of right in such a case. I agree that CPR 13.2 specifies the circumstances in which a default judgment must be set aside and in my judgment one of those circumstances is when judgment is entered in default of an acknowledgement of service when "any of the conditions in rule 12.3(1) …was not satisfied". Here one such condition was not satisfied, namely the time for acknowledgement of service had not expired, because none had ever become applicable.
 

64. This, to my mind, is not "playing technical games" (c.f. the passage from the Abela case, cited at paragraph 11 in the judgment of Longmore LJ). It is merely applying the principle that due process should be followed. If a defendant has never become under a valid obligation to acknowledge service, either as specified under the rules or by order of the court, I do not see how it can be that a judgment can be entered against him in default of such acknowledgement. He is simply not in default at all.” 

SET ASIDE APPLICATION WAS MADE PROMPTLY

65. I have responded to this matter promptly. I discovered a CCJ had been obtained against me checking my credit reference at the beginning of May. On the DD MMMM 2024 I contacted the Civil National Business Centre to obtain relevant information relating to this default judgement. On the DD MMMM 2024 I wrote to District Enforcement Limited offering to jointly apply to set aside the judgment. Despite allowing them a reasonable amount of time to seek instructions, no response was received. So on the DD MMMM 2024, I have submitted my case in order to set-aside this judgement and fairly present my case.

66. Considering all of the above, I was unable to defend myself against this claim. I believe that the claim against me is without merit and the Default Judgement against me was issued incorrectly. Thus, the judgement should be set aside, the claim struck out, and I ask the Court to kindly consider the reimbursement of the fee of £303 from the claimant should this request be successful.

STATEMENT OF TRUTH:  


I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
 

Signed:  XXXXXXXX
 
Date: DD MMM YYYY
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 27, 2024, 02:41:21 pm
Additionally, do you still have the original NtKs that were issued to you?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 27, 2024, 01:55:06 pm
What was the "issue" date of the claim? This was asked earlier on but I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere. If the claim was issued more than 4 months ago, then there are additional arguments that can be added to your order to get the claim thrown out.

So, what date was the original claim issued?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: The Rookie on May 27, 2024, 01:27:00 pm
You have to complete form N244 and send it to the courts.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 25, 2024, 10:50:50 pm
Do I need to write any formal letters to any particular parties for this?

Or if I contact the court and inform them of that intention, will they give me the guidance I need to proceed?

I know when I called before coming to this forum, they directed me to a form to submit, which carried the £303 cost mentioned in an above post. Given that I am now going down the "without consent" route and requesting the dismissal and for the costs to be passed on to the claimant, will I need to approach it differently?

Or is all of that available through boxes on the form? (I am realising now I should probably look at the form before asking these questions, so I'll go and download it now, but I suspect some of these questions may still stand.)
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: DWMB2 on May 24, 2024, 01:30:05 pm
In short, your next steps will be to do what you said you would do if they didn't respond (as per the last paragraph of the letter), applying for a set aside without consent.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 24, 2024, 01:11:25 pm
Afternoon, all.


I sent the above email on 9 May with a 'deadline' of 23 May. Obviously, said date has now come and gone, and I've received no response from either Gladstones nor District Enforcement.

Any advice on my next steps would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 09, 2024, 05:32:59 pm
Email sent. Thank you once again for the support thus far.

I presume they're likely to drag their heels responding? If I receive a reply from them, I shall post it here immediately. If I have received nothing from them by 4pm 23 May, I shall post here asking for next steps.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 09, 2024, 05:24:13 pm
Yes. That will do. Make sure your letter is correctly formatted with your own name and address and email details.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 09, 2024, 05:16:07 pm
Thank you. I will do precisely as instructed here.

Note: there is an enquiries@ email address on the Gladstones Solicitors Limited website. Is it sufficient that I send my email to that address?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 09, 2024, 12:30:49 pm
Thank you for the timeline, which will need to be referenced from time to time.

For now, just send the letter (PDF) with the blanks filled in to Gladstone. You can CC in District Enforcement. Just give them 14 days from the date on the PDF.

When they respond, show us and we’ll advise on the next step.

I expect them to try and wriggle out of this by suggesting that they draft the order for the set aside themselves which fools some victims into agreeing. Any order drafted by them will not be good for you and is likely to leave you out of pocket.

We will provide a draft order as necessary, together with a warning to the court not to accept theirs. We first need to see their response to the initial letter.

You need to understand, what is being offered to them is the cheaper of two options. If they consent to the set aside and the fee for doing so, it will only cost them £119. If they are allowed to draft the order, they will try to get no order as to costs and for you to pay that fee. They will also try and have the claim re-issued. Later, when they know that they have little chance of winning the claim, they will discontinue.

If they don’t agree to the content of the letter, then you will have to go for a set aside without consent, which will cost £303. However, as you will be setting the terms of the order, you will be asking the court to set the CCJ aside, have the original claim dismissed and have all your costs paid by the Claimant.

It is therefore cheaper for them, ultimately, if they agree to your terms. However, as I have already mentioned, you are not dealing with some nice fluffy, customer service led organisations. These are intellectually malnourished people working for roboclaim, ex-clamper thugs who are only interested in squeezing as much money out of you as possible.

This first shot (the letter) across their bows, alerts them that they may not be dealing with a piece of low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree. Let’s see their response.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 09, 2024, 09:11:49 am
The first time my car was physically seen to be improperly parked was 29 March 2022.

I do not remember specific dates, but based on the dates of emails of mine around the time, trying to get in touch with various parties, I estimate that I received the first PCN through the mail on around 4 April. At that point, I remember phoning District Enforcement and being given very short shrift. They told me to appeal on their website, and I recall reading something on perhaps MoneySavingExpert about errors in the PCN.

I can see from my emails that I submitted the following via District Enforcement's website on 4 April 2022:

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have received a Parking Charge Notice claiming that I was illegally parked at Birmingham Central B57DP at 12:38 on 29 March 2022. However, at that time, my vehicle was not at the claimed location. Instead, I was parked in my own parking space at home in Birmingham Central B5 7EZ. A) The Parking Charge Notice makes an erroneous claim with regard to the location of my vehicle; B) At the time of the notice, my vehicle was parked in the designated parking spot for my home.

On 20 April, I received an email response explaining that the charge was valid for the reasons of no permit. In this response was referenced "Issue date: 31 March 2022" which I presume means that after the parking attendant observed my vehicle on 29 March, the PCN was then issued from the office on 31 March.

In this response, no mention was made of the erroneous details. Please note: I am only remembering this element now as I search through email history.

I also seem to recall the second and third PCNs arriving through my door—together but in separate envelopes—on the same day that I received the email response.

This is around the time that I spoke to my site manager, and he ultimately told me that he had dealt with it, as described above.

I received no further communication from any of the involved parties after that point and I put the whole thing out of my mind. I then moved house in September 2022.

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No further communication of any kind has been received by me at my new address. In April of 2024, I requested my Statutory Credit Report and found the CCJ with a date of 11/04/2023.

Estimated Timeline of Events

2022
29 March - car observed by parking attendant
31 March - PCN.1 issued by District Enforcement
04 April - PCN.1 received by me in post; I submit appeal after several phone calls
12 April - car observed by parking attendant for the second time
15 April - car observed by parking attendant for the third time
Unknown - PCN.2 and PCN.3 issued by District Enforcement
20 April - Response from District Enforcement rejecting Appeal; PCN.2 and PCN.3 received in post
Thereafter, I spoke with site management as the party who had appointed District Enforcement. I am ultimately informed that the matter has been resolved. No further communication.
21 Sept - I move house.

2023
11 April - CCJ - This information is taken initially from the Credit Report.

2024
April - Credit Report received. I contact CNBC; they direct me to Gladstones Solicitors. Gladstones tells me I have to pay or seek private legal advice.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: DWMB2 on May 09, 2024, 12:22:31 am
Please clarify exactly what you are referring to in your posts and but exact dates including the year if we are taking about something that has been going on for over a few years.
This - a simple timeline list of what has happened when (including exactly what you have received and from whom) might be useful here, so that we know where we stand.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 08, 2024, 11:57:00 pm
The Parking company can only make one request to the DVLA for the keepers details. Their problem is that they eventually issued a claim to the address they had without doing any simple credit reference agency bulk searches which would have cost them less than 50p and revealed your current address.

However, by not instructing their DPO to rectify your address after you moved and for them to erase your old address, you have now got to get this CCJ set aside.

Your post though, is not clear. You mention some "issue dates" in March and "initial letters" and so on. You need to be very clear about what you are mentioning> I have no idea whether you are talking about the original NtKs (PCNs) or the date of the county court claim which, earlier, you mentioned you had not had any correspondence about because it just have gone to your old address.

Please clarify exactly what you are referring to in your posts and but exact dates including the year if we are taking about something that has been going on for over a few years. 
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 08, 2024, 11:34:38 pm
Seems I have an issue date of 31 March 2022, with the first 'offense' being listed as 29 March. Note, in case this matters, no ticket was actually attached to my vehicle. I received the initial letter on around 4 April. The date of the court judgement is 11 April 2023.

Also, looking at my own correspondence from the time, it appears that they wrote the wrong post code in the initial letter, which I informed them of when I wrote to them. I do not have the original letter as evidence of this.

Note that they had an email address and phone number for me as well as the mailing address, and the mailing address they got from DVLA. So there were plenty of ways for them to contact me.

Unfortunately, I do not have the owner's lease, and I do not have contact for the owner anymore.

To DWMB2's point, I don't believe there is anything explicitly written anywhere that describes the parking space allocation. I was simply told by the letting agent when I viewed the property and moved in, and the space was visibly numbered. This was also visible in photos that District Enforcement attached at the time.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: DWMB2 on May 08, 2024, 05:58:15 pm
I don't doubt the OP's account, but something to demonstrate said allocation would be useful.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 08, 2024, 05:55:09 pm
The OP has stated:

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There was a double parking spot allocated to our house with the house number clearly signposted

Although it may be useful to know in what document was this "allocation" stated.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: DWMB2 on May 08, 2024, 05:36:23 pm
In addition to the useful information from b789 above, I noted this from your previous post:

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15. Cars and Parking
15.1.  To park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Property, if applicable.
It would probably be worth seeking to acquire some evidence that this clause is applicable, that is, evidence that a parking space was indeed allocated to the property, meaning that your lease did entitle you to park where you did.

The Head Lease mentioned by b789 may help with that.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 08, 2024, 05:27:18 pm
Don't worry. This is going to go away if you follow the advice.

For information, Those PoC are woefully inadequate and there is a very good chance e that the claim will be fully dismissed at the set aside hearing. This is because there is no mention in the PoC of what terms, if any the defendant is supposed to have breached.

This was shown in an appeal court ruling a year or so ago, CEL v Chan, that because the PoC fail to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4 (https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part16#16.4) and Practice Directions Part 16 (https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part16/pd_part16). The claim (and many others since) have been thrown out because of this breach of the rules.

Additionally, Gladstones have mendaciously claimed interest at 10.25% which is a violation of Section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/28/section/69#:~:text=69%20Power%20to%20award%20interest%20on%20debts%20and%20damages.&text=the%20defendant%20shall%20be%20liable,the%20date%20of%20the%20payment.). Section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 permits interest to be added to most non-commercial debts at the rate of 8% per year. This is a statutory interest rate and can usually be claimed from the date the debt was due up to the date the claim is issued.

At the point of issuing court proceedings, other court fees and costs can also be added to the amount that is being claimed. However, that as with any other element of a claim, interest can only be claimed at 8% and is awarded at the discretion of the court. Gladstones should be reported to the Solicitors Regulation Authority (https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/problems/report-solicitor/) for this embarrassing breach of the County Courts Act 1984.

From what you have told us about the AST and the little that it mentioned about parking, it does not appear that DE never had any right to impose parking charges and there was no requirement to display a permit. These things will be part of your draft defence and also mentioned in your Witness Statement for the set aside order.

It may be worthwhile trying to get a copy of the Head Lease for the property from the landlord, just in case there are any items in there about parking that could supersede your rights in our AST.

The first thing you should do now is email Gladstones with the following information. They need to be informed that you intend to have the CCJ set aside and give them an opportunity to do so at their expense. The nest steps will depend on their response to this letter. I suggest it is written and saved in a PDF format and the emailed to Gladstones as an attachment to the email. This will serve as proof of delivery.

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Dear Sirs,

DISTRICT ENFORCEMENT LIMITED (THE 'CLAIMANT')

V

[                        ] (THE 'DEFENDANT')

CLAIM REFERENCE [             ]

In April 2024, I noticed that my credit score was in decline and had no idea why, so I requested a statutory credit report. On it, I saw a CCJ and a £685 charge. This came as a tremendous shock as it is the first and only communication I have received from the Claimant or any organisation representing the Claimant in relation to this claim.
   
I made immediate enquiries of the CNBC from which I was able to establish that:

1. the claim relates to alleged parking events in March and April 2022;
2. the claim form was sent to an old address at which I no longer reside; and
3. if I had been given the opportunity to do so, I would have successfully defended the claim.

I did not receive any pre-claim correspondence, not even a letter of claim as required by the PAP. Nor did I receive the claim form or any particulars of claim and was thus deprived of the ability to defend the claim. The Claimant is well aware that people move home from time to time. They also know that I did not respond to any communications sent to me at my old address.

This situation is explicitly dealt with in the Civil Procedure Rules which provide at CPR 6.9(3):

(3) Where a claimant has reason to believe that the address of the defendant … is an address at which the defendant no longer resides or carries on business, the claimant must take reasonable steps to ascertain the address of the defendant’s current residence or place of business (‘current address’).

The Claimant is a member of the International Parking Community (the ‘IPC’) and is bound by the IPC’s Code of Practice which states the following terms:

22.1 Operators must take reasonable steps to ensure that the Motorist’s details are still correct if 12 months have passed from the Parking Event before issuing court proceedings.

Also:

25.1 The Code complements the relevant legislation and related guidance, which will define the overall standard of conduct for all Operators. Operators must be aware of their legal obligations and implement the relevant legislation and guidance when operating their businesses.

Civil Procedure Rule 6.9(3) is relevant legislation and has not been implemented as required by the IPC Code of Practice.

If the Claimant had taken the actions required by the Civil Procedure Rules and the Code of Practice, my current address would have been found easily.  If those actions had been performed at the correct time, I would not have been deprived of the ability to defend the claim.

By reason of the Claimant’s breach of the Civil Procedure Rules, which amounts to an abuse of the process of the Court, the claim form was never properly served and the judgment must be set aside at the Claimant’s expense and the claim dismissed.

In view of the foregoing, I invite the Claimant to join with me in an application to set aside the judgment and dismiss the claim, with the Claimant paying the court fee and no order as to costs.

Please respond to the above offer as soon as possible so that, if the offer is acceptable to the Claimant, we can work together to right the wrong that the Claimant has done to me.

To give the Claimant a reasonable time to take instructions and for us to agree a suite of documents for the Court, I am willing to defer making a unilateral application to set aside the judgment until 4 pm on Wednesday 22nd May 2024. If a joint application has not been made by that time, I intend to apply to the Court unilaterally for an order setting the judgment aside, striking out the particulars of claim, dismissing the claim and awarding costs against the Claimant on a full indemnity basis.

Pease respond by immediate return.

Yours faithfully,

Can you please find out the date the claim was issued as there could be other points to have the claim dismissed if more than 4 months have passed since the issue date of the claim.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 08, 2024, 03:04:00 pm
Additionally, I am here copying from the Tenancy Agreement the articles relating to parking:

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15. Cars and Parking
15.1.  To park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Property, if applicable.
15.2.  To keep any garage, driveway, or parking space free of oil and to pay for the removal and cleaning of any spillage caused by a vehicle of the Tenant, his family, contractors or visitors.
15.3  To remove all vehicles belonging to the Tenant, his family or visitors at the end of the Tenancy.
15.4. Not to park any vehicle at the Property that is not in road worthy condition and fully taxed.


Note:
- This is the entirety of all mentions of parking in the documentation associated with moving into the property
- There was a double parking spot allocated to our house with the house number clearly signposted
- The only way the parking agency were able to send the tickets to me was by finding my address from the DVLA, at which point they will have found that the address of the vehicle and the place it was parked were one and the same
- There WERE signs in the car park which explained the need for a permit, but I don't know when they appeared and admittedly always assumed they were to warn non-residents / unauthorised vehicles.
- On said sign, which I read after receiving the charges, are the following two, separate points:
 - - a valid permit is not clearly on display, or
 - - the vehicle is not pre-authorised to park

I would dispute that being the resident and having the vehicle registered to the address would constitute authorisation to park, and given that these are "OR" criteria, that would preclude the necessity to display a permit.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 08, 2024, 02:34:06 pm
I have now been sent the following by CNBC.

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Claimant: DISTRICT ENFORCEMENT LIMITED
 
Claimant solicitor: GLADSTONES SOLICITORS LIMITED (7372)
Telephone:
Reference:
 
Judgment amount:£685.93
 
Particulars of claim:
THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE WITH REGISTRATION  ..... (THE 'VEHICLE') PARKED IN BREACH OF  THE TERMS OF PARKING STIPULATED ON THE       SIGNAGE (THE 'CONTRACT') AT B5 CENTRAL, ON   12/04/2022, 15/04/2022, 29/03/2022,  THUS    INCURRING THE PARKING CHARGES (THE 'PCN'S'). THE PCN'S WERE NOT PAID WITHIN 28 DAYS OF    ISSUE. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS THE UNPAID PCN'S  FROM THE DEFENDANT AS THE DRIVER/KEEPER OF   THE VEHICLE. DESPITE DEMANDS BEING MADE, THE DEFENDANT HAS FAILED TO SETTLE THEIR         OUTSTANDING LIABILITY. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS   £100 PER PCN, £60.00 PER PCN CONTRACTUAL     COSTS PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT AND PCN TERMS AND CONDITIONS, TOGETHER WITH STATUTORY      INTEREST OF £39.75 PURSUANT TO S69 OF THE    COUNTY COURTS ACT 1984 AT 10.25% PER ANNUM,  CONTINUING AT £0.13 PER DAY.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

To reiterate:
- I was NOT aware of "the contract" and had been issued NO parking permit
- I DID receive the tickets and WAS aware at the time that the 28 day period had passed (during this time, I was pursuing guidance)
- The second and third tickets were issued WHILE I was still disputing the first and WHILE I was still waiting to receive my permit.
- I was then under the impression that the charges had been withdrawn, so was UNAWARE of continuing charges and, consequently, any interest due
- I NEVER received any further communications that it was going to court; I did NOT receive an invitation to appear at court; I did NOT receive communication that a judgment had been made against me.
- I have NEVER at any point received any contact from Gladstones Solicitors of any kind.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 07, 2024, 08:11:29 pm
The first thing you now need to do is get back in touch with the CNBC and request the PoC to be emailed to you whilst you wait on the line.

Regarding point 2 almost every PCN issued by an unregulated private parking company has errors and omissions that can be appealed and defended in court. Without knowing the exact circumstances of the actual parking incidents and without seeing the PCNs, it is difficult to advise.

Do you still have a copy of your AST/lease agreement with your landlord from the time you were living at the address? What the AST/lease says about parking is very important as is what it doesn't say bout parking.

More often than not, PPCs are introduced to residential car parks in breach of the lease. A lease can't just be "amended" to allow a third part to fetter the tenants rights. Often, the requirements to display permits is not mentioned nor is there any legal requirement to display one. Some tenants/leaseholders d display one out of courtesy.

There is much more to this but for now you need to get those PoC and if possible SAR the DPO at Civil Enforcement so that you get copies of the PCNs.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: DWMB2 on May 07, 2024, 08:05:43 pm
Regarding #2, assuming the CCJ is set aside and another hearing takes place, it would be for a judge to decide whether or not you had to pay (and if so, how much). Even if you lost at that stage, there's a fair chance the figure demanded would be less than the current one, as some of the debt collector charges etc. they add on can be challenged.
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 07, 2024, 07:39:49 pm
Thank you. I appreciate this comprehensive, no-nonsense response.

I did call CNBC as soon as I opened the Statutory Credit Report. I had no idea what I was doing at the time, so I basically called to ask them what it meant. At that time, they did tell me the name of the solicitors who had filed with the court. It was Gladstones Solicitors. I didn't know to request anything else, so at that point I hung up and tried calling Gladstones to explain to them the circumstances as I have laid them out here. Unsurprisingly, Gladstones simply told me I had to pay.

The company that sent the PCN was District Enforcement. I do not have the letters that they sent me anymore, this being almost two years in the past and, to my knowledge, already cleared up. I have also moved house since then. In hindsight, it would be great if I had kept them, obviously, but I didn't.

I do have the response that they sent by email to tell me that the ticket was not a mistake.

To be very clear: where you say I am absolutely wrong about point 2, it seems you are saying that I'm wrong about having to pay any of the charges at all. Is that the correct reading, or are you saying I am wrong about not having to pay the successive charges?
Title: Re: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: b789 on May 07, 2024, 06:20:24 pm
This CCJ must be set side mandatorily under CPR 13.2 as the claim was never properly served.

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part13

1. As you did not receive the original claim, you had no opportunity to respond to it.

2. You are completely wrong on this point. Just rolling over and accepting that you had to pay the original PCNs and now are liable to pay the CCJ is exactly what these unregulated private parking companies want you to believe. They rely on the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to fall for their scams and capitulate and pay up.

Once the CCJ is set aside, the original claim will either be thrown out or allowed to be re-served, depending on several things that we will come to.

3. The additional charges in the CCJ will be made up of fake damages/debt collector fees that, ordinarily, would not be allowed in a "small claims" case, together with the court fee and fixed legal costs. Unfortunately, in a "default" CCJ, there is no human intervention and these fake add ons, which would ordinarily not be allowed, are included.

You have two options to get this set aside. The first option is to get in touch with the solicitors who filed the claim on behalf of the unregulated private parking company. You need to find out who this was by contacting the CNBC and asking them for the details of the claimant and their representative. You also need to tell them to send you a copy of the Particulars of Claim (PoC). Be prepared for a long wait on the phone but persist and wait on the phone until they have emailed you the PoC and you have the claimant/solicitor details.

You can either request that the clamant agree to a set aside which will not involve a hearing and will cost £108. However, most claimants are greedy thugs and intellectually malnourished enough not to consent, thereby risking them being to being liable for the full costs. They hope most defendants aren't clued up enough to know how to go about this procedure.

The clamant may only agree to a set aside with consent as long as the defendant pays the £108 fee, which you should not agree to.

The second option is that you go for a set aside without consent which will involve a hearing and will cost £275. However, you can request that the clamant refund the fee. The judge may decide that the fee is "reserved" until the original claim is decided. The problem with this is that, depending on who the claimant/solicitor is, they may then decide to discontinue the claim, leaving you with an uphill struggle to get the set aside fee back.

Fist things first... which PPC issued the PCNs? Do you still have them? Phone the CNBC first thing in the morning, preferably exactly at 8:30 to try and avoid a long telephone wait and get the details of the claimant and their solicitor, if they used one and, importantly, you need to wait on the phone while you get them to email you the PoC.

Once you've got those details, we can advise on how to move forward. It is important that you act promptly as no judge likes to find out that you sat on this information once you found that you have a CCJ.
Title: CCJ I did not know I had pertaining to a parking charge I did not know I still owed
Post by: Karl on May 07, 2024, 05:05:16 pm

In 2022, I lived in rented accommodation in Birmingham. After living there and parking in my designated parking space for about 6 months, I received a parking ticket. I assumed a mistake had been made and contacted the agency to tell them so. They replied that no error had been made and that I would have to pay, because I had not displayed a permit in my car. At the time, I did not know that a permit was required; I did not have a permit. When I moved in, I had been shown where to park but told nothing about parking permits. I had received no other communications about parking permits up to the point that I receive the charge.

In the time it took me to respond to the initial charge, receive the response and chase up my landlady for a permit, I received two more tickets for the same reason. This was in the space of two weeks and the charges now totaled £300. I approached the site manager for the property and explained what had happened. He was surprised and told me that he would follow up. He came back to me to say that the charges had been dealt with and that the contract with the agency had been terminated, as it turned out that other residents had had similar experiences and the site management were not happy about it. Note: this was all in spoken conversation, nothing written.

I took that as good news, and I heard nothing more about the parking tickets. I moved house 3 or 4 months later.

Just recently, in April 2024, I noticed that my credit score was in decline and had no idea why, so I requested a statutory credit report. On it, I saw a CCJ and a £685 charge. I had no idea what this was, but after some searching and a few phone calls and redirects, I found that it pertained to the parking charges. I do not know what the additional fees are for.

Anybody that I have spoken to since (the court, the original claimant’s solicitor and another legal advice dot-com) has told me that I have one choice: pay.

However, (1) I have seen some guidance online that suggests I can have the CCJ set aside if I was never informed of it, which I wasn’t.

Also, (2) while I accept that almost everybody seems to ultimately give up and just pay the charge because claims of excessive fees are never entertained, I feel that my case is unique: I accept that I would probably have no choice but to pay the initial ticket, no matter how unfair I personally feel it to be. But the successive two tickets that I received before I had had a reasonable chance to comply seem unlawful?

Finally, (3) the charges that I was aware of, even including the two successive tickets, totaled £300. What of the additional £385 that is now a part of the charge?

What advice can you offer regarding these three points? Any guidance is much appreciated.


P.S. if it is relevant, I have no other debts and never have.