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Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Boomer on October 30, 2024, 06:41:14 pm
....and https://www.pepipoo.com/ has been somewhat "bare" for the last few weeks n'all.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: roythebus on October 30, 2024, 08:19:45 am
The final funeral rites for Pepipoo...this from Companies House today 30 October 2024.

PEPITEC LIMITED

You have been sent this email because you are following PEPITEC LIMITED (05196712)

The following information is available from the company's filing history.

Date   Form   Description
5 Nov 2024   GAZ2(A)   Final Gazette dissolved via voluntary strike-off
To stop following this company go to companies you follow.

Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on May 12, 2024, 11:01:10 pm
Most of the "regulars" started off as semi-clueless newbies, were impressed by the depth of knowledge and helpfulness of the existing regulars, and sought to emulate them (with varying degrees of success).

If you build it, they will come.
I totally agree, but it is plainly going to take some time. There have been a number of threads I've seen where no replies have been given and understandably the OP just paid, thinking their case must have been hopeless, so I definitely think we are operating at full capacity at the moment. Hopefully things will improve.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: andy_foster on May 11, 2024, 05:40:59 pm
Most of the "regulars" started off as semi-clueless newbies, were impressed by the depth of knowledge and helpfulness of the existing regulars, and sought to emulate them (with varying degrees of success).

If you build it, they will come.

N.B. One of the major differences between PePiPoo and FTLA is that PePiPoo started off as a speed camera, etc. site, with the parking forums added originally as somewhere for the idiots who insisted on asking for advice on parking tickets on a speed camera forum to post that wasn't the speed camera active cases forum.

This site has been heavily driven from an active decriminalized council penalties page, so there will always be a degree of apples and oranges.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Southpaw82 on May 11, 2024, 04:38:43 pm
I’ve found that not everyone needs their hand holding, i.e. personal representation. A lot of people can be helped just on a forum because they can apply what they are told themselves.

For the latter group, help can range from ‘standard’ advice in stickies to bespoke help in an advice thread.

I don’t see why it should be any different here to PPP in terms of volume and what can be serviced.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on May 11, 2024, 11:56:00 am
Many many offers of help and suggestions have been made and seemingly fallen on deaf ears.
That is true, but there are also threads that get no answers at all. In a perfect world you'd want everyone who seeks advice to have full advice and a representative who has capacity to take their case on, but that is very much a pipe dream. As we don't have capacity to deal with all incoming threads as it is, I'm not sure a greater volume of traffic would result in more successful appeals, it seems to me that those who provide advice or representation are operating at full capacity pretty much 100% of the time.

I now have to go and write 15 skeleton arguments over the weekend...
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: sparxy on May 11, 2024, 02:05:52 am
Many many offers of help and suggestions have been made and seemingly fallen on deaf ears. I expect the PPP reps are just wanting the site to die now, they don't seem to be being proactive about keeping it alive...
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on May 11, 2024, 12:25:15 am
I fear we'll have to wait till 2027 for that. There's also the question of capacity, as things stand we don't have enough people offering advice for the volume of threads we have coming in, so if we got even more posts who would deal with them?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Irksome on May 10, 2024, 09:59:14 am
It'd be good if we could redirect the domain here - it still has good rankings etc and I am sure gets a lot of traffic.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on May 09, 2024, 06:17:52 pm
I don't know, but Astralite has been in touch with the representatives of the owners of the PPP site a few times, i'll ask her what the outcome is/was.
At this point I'd suggest it hardly matters, I'm pretty sure the whole crew has moved over anyway.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: roythebus on May 09, 2024, 12:54:42 pm
I don't know, but Astralite has been in touch with the representatives of the owners of the PPP site a few times, i'll ask her what the outcome is/was.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Irksome on May 09, 2024, 12:51:22 am
I understand its not really important, but it could be useful .. has anyone had any contact with the 'team' at Pepipoo ... its clearly not gonna come back from the dead now?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: mickR on April 25, 2024, 08:00:39 pm
This forum looks more modern with very knowledgeable members who offer advice.
I only found out about this forum through the MSE site.
You may find that they are the same.
usernames might be a giveaway  ::)
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Hippocrates on April 25, 2024, 04:08:44 pm
tbh honest I prefer this forum now after joining yesterday. With Pepipoo you can't even  register with an outlook email address which is absurd in this day and age. This forum looks more modern with very knowledgeable members who offer advice.
I only found out about this forum through the MSE site.
You may find that they are the same.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Hippocrates on April 25, 2024, 04:07:31 pm
All gloating aside, so is the Tribunal having problems just now:

Service not available

The service is currently unavailable

The problem is being worked on and the service will return as soon as possible

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Reentrant on April 25, 2024, 02:10:10 pm
Hmm. I tried other browsers and found "Numbers viewing ..." works with Edge but not Chrome or Firefox.
Anyway, never mind.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Southpaw82 on April 25, 2024, 01:28:17 pm
Not sure this is worth a separate thread but ...

FTLA always says near the top of each board "0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this board".

Which isn't true as at least one person is viewing at that time - me!
It doesn’t for me; it tells me I’m viewing it (with zero guests).
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Reentrant on April 25, 2024, 01:13:14 pm
Not sure this is worth a separate thread but ...

FTLA always says near the top of each board "0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this board".

Which isn't true as at least one person is viewing at that time - me!
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: tlogic on April 22, 2024, 10:26:49 pm
tbh honest I prefer this forum now after joining yesterday. With Pepipoo you can't even  register with an outlook email address which is absurd in this day and age. This forum looks more modern with very knowledgeable members who offer advice.
I only found out about this forum through the MSE site.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on April 22, 2024, 06:33:37 pm
We don't need day-by-day updates, please don't post any more replies that say nothing other than "it's still down". Anyone wanting to check can go and look for themselves and these posts (musical contributions aside) add absolutely nothing to the thread.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: mickR on April 22, 2024, 09:52:51 am
its still down
this seems appropriate  (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d1gYJDQXPOk)
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on April 20, 2024, 07:05:55 pm
What are we supposed to do/ how long to wait when the message
"IPS Driver Error there appears to be an error  with the database" appears?
Really need help with a Notice of Rejection.. :-[
@Twasbrillig is this a joke? You're literally on a website called Free Traffic Legal Advice?

I suggest you read the guidance here (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/) and then make a post in the council forum.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Twasbrillig on April 20, 2024, 06:42:08 pm
What are we supposed to do/ how long to wait when the message
"IPS Driver Error there appears to be an error  with the database" appears?
Really need help with a Notice of Rejection.. :-[
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on April 19, 2024, 05:09:37 am
Its part of its appeal ...it keeps giving and taking away.


It has a huge history and reputation.Try the search button??There is stuff from when the Bay City Rollers where in the charts.


The page that will not die!!




Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: sparxy on April 18, 2024, 05:47:10 pm
May also be what your computers have cached already. If the site is down, and your computer has a copy of the page previously, it may show you this instead of an error message.

Whilst this might be them updating the site, I'm a little concerned with the influx of spam comments (esp from "old" accounts) that perhaps someone has taken advantage of the security flaws in the older IPB software, which has been warned about for some years.

A simple database connection problem should have been fixed by now, but, only if it's been spotted. Presumably it hasn't (and with no contact details for "mjdev", we can't contact them).
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: DWMB2 on April 18, 2024, 04:55:39 pm
seems strange some could access and some not as if it was getting arbitrarily selective?
Speculation on my part, but I wonder if it was in and out of service for a period and different members caught it when it was either on or offline. As you say the idea it'd be working for some but not others seems unusual.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: peak4 on April 18, 2024, 04:54:09 pm
For me, main website up OK, but forum down.


IsItDown website (https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/forums.pepipoo.com.html) shows both main site & forum responding to them, so probably pings OK
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: mickR on April 18, 2024, 10:40:31 am
yep offline for me to now. no idea about IT but seems strange some could access and some not as if it was getting arbitrarily selective?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Hippocrates on April 18, 2024, 09:57:05 am
Also, why have some members' avatar pictures been removed?  Hacking?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: slapdash on April 18, 2024, 09:42:16 am
Yes, I've just tried and IPS server error message.

The error is not necessarily with the pepipoo site as such. Wherever pepipoo is hosted that still needs to connect downsteam.

That doesn't make any difference to availability of course, merely whether the pepipoo admins can do much about it currently (if they are even aware yet).

Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: roythebus on April 18, 2024, 03:05:17 am
Yes, I've just tried and IPS server error message.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Enceladus on April 18, 2024, 12:35:35 am
I am getting the IPS drier error as well. The site has been hesitating for the last couple of days, like it was overloaded. So I was expecting it to go down.

Also the View counter had stopped working. Posts with replies were showing a count of zero.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: sparxy on April 17, 2024, 11:54:33 pm
Yep, down again for me too.

IPS driver is probably related to the database connection...
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Southpaw82 on April 17, 2024, 10:43:46 pm
I’m getting an IPS driver error.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: mickR on April 17, 2024, 10:39:00 pm
working for me to.
I have noticed that despite there being numerous replies to most threads it appears that not one thread has had any views  ::) is it dying an undignified death or a revival by instalments?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Rallyman72 on April 17, 2024, 01:20:04 pm
Still there but slow loading.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: John U.K. on April 17, 2024, 11:53:15 am
Pepipoo is down again from last night when I kept getting error messages after getting a "flood control" message. No connection with server again this morning.

Working for me last night and this morning (still not clearing unread icons nor going to first unread on a few threads)
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: roythebus on April 17, 2024, 08:34:27 am
Pepipoo is down again from last night when I kept getting error messages after getting a "flood control" message. No connection with server again this morning.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Southpaw82 on April 03, 2024, 05:12:58 pm
My PePiPoo log in no longer works

I’ve checked your profile and I can’t see any reason why.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: PECFRO on April 03, 2024, 09:15:33 am
My PePiPoo log in no longer works
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: mickR on March 30, 2024, 03:05:42 pm
Like almost everything on pepipoo,........ is that it's not been updated in 10+ years.
I hope you haven't included SP in that catch all  ::)
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 29, 2024, 05:03:16 pm
Like almost everything on pepipoo, the problem with the Nip wizard is that it's not been updated in 10+ years.

If you want to make a new one for use on here I'm all for it.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: ManxTom on March 28, 2024, 12:52:24 pm
I'm still puzzled why - if as claimed so many regulars have actually moved here - the speed section is vacant in comparison?

Is that because of the "READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!**" Important Topic on this website under Speeding and other criminal offences which appears to suggest to posters to use "our NIP Wizard" and then gives a footnote referring to PePiPoo?  That seems to me to be inviting speeding posters to post on Pepipoo rather than posting here.

But I'm uncertain as to whether the PePiPoo NIP wizard is fit for purpose anyway.  There's a thread on there at the moment where the OP had an NIP dated 11 days after the offence but received it 15 days after the offence.  The Wizard recommendations are (1) "that the NIP must arrive within 14 days unless there is a valid reason why that was not possible", and (2) also links to advice from the RAC's legal team which directs to a thread over 20 years old which contains a suggested and out of date response drafted by the RAC and such gems as returning the NIP unsigned and that the best defence is to say you don't know who was driving...

I appreciate that the answers themselves to the Wizard questions can assist in providing relelvant advice, but that doesn't really explain why the Wizard produces a "Recommendation" that on the face of it is extrememly misleading if not downright wrong.  I've certainly read one thread where the OP said thay'd sent off the RAC letter as recommended only to be asked why they'd done that. Well because that's what the wizard recommended.

I'm sure when it was written years ago the Wizard was rather clever and helpful, but I'd suggest that at the very least it needs updating.  Perhaps it should be done on here.

(I think I previously pointed out problems with the wizard on PePiPoo but got dismissively shot down and couldn't be bothered taking it further.  But this is a different website...)
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: The Slithy Tove on March 28, 2024, 09:02:02 am
But there's shedloads of advice given on Pepipoo (and hopefully increasingly on here) on how to deal with other matters such as s172 charges (when no NIP/s172 received), convictions in absence and others. The benefit that posters receive is arguably every bit as important as there is very often a good strategy to deal with those problems which posters otherwise would not be aware of.
Also educating posters about the likes of
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Southpaw82 on March 27, 2024, 09:41:50 pm
I can't remember a speeding case worth fighting. They are rarer than hen's teeth.
Nowadays, yes. It’s such a simple offence that challenging it requires some quite unusual circumstances.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: NewJudge on March 27, 2024, 09:33:14 pm
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I can't remember a speeding case worth fighting. They are rarer than hen's teeth.

I agree there are few arguable on the basis of "I wasn't speeding". But there's shedloads of advice given on Pepipoo (and hopefully increasingly on here) on how to deal with other matters such as s172 charges (when no NIP/s172 received), convictions in absence and others. The benefit that posters receive is arguably every bit as important as there is very often a good strategy to deal with those problems which posters otherwise would not be aware of.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: John Glacier on March 27, 2024, 03:33:05 pm
I can't remember a speeding case worth fighting. They are rarer than hen's teeth.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 27, 2024, 10:55:06 am
and also due to the fact that council tickets are far more likely to be worth challenging if you have access to people that know what they're doing.

Speeding seems to largely about explaining to posters how to read the sticky that tells them how to perform a statutory declaration and do a plea bargain to get the s. 172 dropped.
This. I think we've not seen more than one or two cases a year where a speeding case was actually worth challenging, just as that case where the 30 mph signs were blanked out and the police agreed to drop it.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: ManxTom on March 26, 2024, 11:06:40 pm
Also I'm not sure users on other forums are aware of FTLA?  I post on MSE and Legal Beagles and usually you only see suggestions to go to pepipoo not ftla.
I hope you're directing people here then?

I try to direct people to both, but some referrers only know about Pepipoo and not FTLA.

While it's obviously ok for people to choose whether they want to post on both sites or just one, I think there's a danger of confusion and distraction so long as Pepipoo continues and some users seem to have decided to stay there and not venture here.  It just dilutes the knowledge base and experience to draw on.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: andy_foster on March 26, 2024, 10:58:21 pm
The question is not why is the speeding section so quiet, it is why is the council section so busy. IMHO largely due to the presence of a facebook group for council tickets, and also due to the fact that council tickets are far more likely to be worth challenging if you have access to people that know what they're doing.

Speeding seems to largely about explaining to posters how to read the sticky that tells them how to perform a statutory declaration and do a plea bargain to get the s. 172 dropped.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 26, 2024, 10:39:30 pm
I'm still puzzled why - if as claimed so many regulars have actually moved here - the speed section is vacant in comparison?
Because many of us made a concerted effort to redirect OPs from the council forum on pepipoo to ftla, while no such attempt was made in the speeding section.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 26, 2024, 10:37:53 pm
Also I'm not sure users on other forums are aware of FTLA?  I post on MSE and Legal Beagles and usually you only see suggestions to go to pepipoo not ftla.
I hope you're directing people here then?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Chijiki on March 26, 2024, 04:19:17 pm
Pepipoo is up and running again.

We should open a book on how long it'll remain so.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: ManxTom on March 26, 2024, 03:01:20 pm
I'm still puzzled why - if as claimed so many regulars have actually moved here - the speed section is vacant in comparison?

Is it search results?

I presume most people looking for advice re a NIP wouldn't know about either Pepipoo or FTLA, so is pepipoo just a more popular search result?

Also I'm not sure users on other forums are aware of FTLA?  I post on MSE and Legal Beagles and usually you only see suggestions to go to pepipoo not ftla.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: guest46 on March 26, 2024, 12:54:53 pm
I'm still puzzled why - if as claimed so many regulars have actually moved here - the speed section is vacant in comparison?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: ManxTom on March 26, 2024, 11:39:42 am
Yeah - it's down again...

As I've said before, one of the most important features of an advice site like Pepipoo (or this one) is that it should be reliable and be there when it's needed
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: The Slithy Tove on March 26, 2024, 07:02:42 am
Pepipoo seems to have fallen over ... again. Does not bode well.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: mickR on March 23, 2024, 06:05:55 pm
I see that message on every page
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Enceladus on March 23, 2024, 12:29:48 am
I agree. Seems to me that PePiPoo is still not working properly.
If you scroll to the bottom of some of the pages then you see the error message below. EG here in Council & Decrim. (http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=153724)

"Copyright © 2002-2021 Pepitec Ltd.
Powered By IP.Board © 2024  IPS, Inc.
IPS Driver Error
There appears to be an error with the database.
You can try to refresh the page by clicking here"
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: sparxy on March 22, 2024, 02:45:34 pm
It isn't working properly. The orange "flags" indicating that there are unread posts in a particular thread do not disappear when the posts have been read.

I wonder if the database had a booboo and some of it had to be restored?

Posts appear to be there from just before it went down, but I had to log back in, so possibly something went screwy.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: NewJudge on March 22, 2024, 09:31:56 am
It isn't working properly. The orange "flags" indicating that there are unread posts in a particular thread do not disappear when the posts have been read.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: The Slithy Tove on March 22, 2024, 07:12:07 am
Pepipoo may be back, but for how long this time?

Should we be more aggressively trying to pull traffic to this site, given Pepipoo's fagility? When we thought the domain was going to expire, there was a push within the Council Tickets forum to get people to post here. Maybe because of that, FTLA now comes up on searches more and the Council Tickets forum here is quite busy. The Speeding and Private Parking forums less so.

Maybe encourage all new posters on Pepipoo to open a thread here, too? Short of the black art of manipulating search engines to prefer a particular site, how else to bring posters here?
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Southpaw82 on March 22, 2024, 12:12:10 am
It seems to be back up and running now.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 21, 2024, 11:16:13 pm
I see no reason why Pepipoo has continued except misplaced sentiment.
It's worse than that, Pepitec Ltd has about £30k in the kitty (see Companies House filings) which is supposedly meant to be a fighting fund for some big legal battle rather than for the personal benefit of the owners, or at least that is the rumour.

Obviously £30k would not have paid for a KC, but there are some pretty formidable juniors who could have given Mr Korner a run for his money (Michael Rhimes comes to mind) and if the owners of Pepipoo were still around and had any real interest in fighting for motorists, they would have surely wanted to use the money to fight that battle, considering that an opportunity like that only comes up once a decade or so.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: ManxTom on March 21, 2024, 11:11:10 pm

...The fact that the site owners are unaware of their site being down for days at a time speaks for itself, it suggests that even if it is fixed, should there be another problem it could take days or maybe even weeks to resolve the problem. Of course no site has 100% uptime, ftla experienced a DNS outage last year. The difference is that I was able to get in touch with the platform provider and all was solved within 30 minutes or so.


This ^^^^

AS I said in my post on the "Does anyone still use Pepipoo?" thread, last June it was several weeks before the site owners became aware that Pepipoo had gone down and started to get it sorted out.  The same thing has now happened again - although it's only been a week this time.

If somebody with no knowledge comes to a website looking for advice on parking matters or motoring offences (where timescales are crucial) there's no point using, or being directed to, a site that is unrelaiable and here today gone tomorrow.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: ManxTom on March 21, 2024, 11:05:21 pm
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I have a hunch you may not be on Pepipoo anymore...I dont think anyone is??  Which promped my question ??
Yes, I'm well aware of which site I'm on. Your question seemed to be "Can't you get together with Southpaw and amke this site boogie now."... This site is up and running, and has been for a number of months, hence my confusion as to what your point was.

My point was ....it seems a bit terminal for Pepipoo now.

The regular  Posters  on that site will probably need somewhere to weave their magic and get involved with the banter....like before.


Are they all aware of this page/site/domain ??


Yes - they are all aware.

When Pepipoo went down in June last year all the Pepipoo regulars moved over to here and were happy to do so as it seemed Pepipoo would not be resurrected.

When Pepipoo did rise Lazarus like from the dead, most regulars were happy to use both sites.  However, a couple of the council parking experts seemed to make the decision to only use Pepipoo, which I think has adversely affected both sites.

I see no reason why Pepipoo has continued except misplaced sentiment.  No matter how good it has been in the past it's clunky, unsecure and  - most importantly - unreliable.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 21, 2024, 09:46:27 pm
Whilst I don't want to see Ppp go, they've had what, 6 days of downtime now? That's unacceptable, as others suggested in cases where timeframes are strict. Suggestions have been made to MJdev, and offers of help were extended previously and ignored.

If they were indeed working on upgrades on the site, they would have been aware it was down, and if not, surely they would still visit it occasionally? (I visit all of my sites a few times a week, and also have automatic reporting when stuff breaks).

Part of me wishes that the domain had never been renewed, it would have been easy to then provide a link to here and other resources, and also a proxy back to the (still running) ppp server.


In a Nutshell !!
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: sparxy on March 21, 2024, 03:09:06 pm
Whilst I don't want to see Ppp go, they've had what, 6 days of downtime now? That's unacceptable, as others suggested in cases where timeframes are strict. Suggestions have been made to MJdev, and offers of help were extended previously and ignored.

If they were indeed working on upgrades on the site, they would have been aware it was down, and if not, surely they would still visit it occasionally? (I visit all of my sites a few times a week, and also have automatic reporting when stuff breaks).

Part of me wishes that the domain had never been renewed, it would have been easy to then provide a link to here and other resources, and also a proxy back to the (still running) ppp server.

Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 20, 2024, 08:21:35 pm
My problem is that I have a few lice cases on the other site and the OPs may not transfer on to this site.
I'm really not trying to rub it in but I did warn that this is exactly the scenario that might play out if people were given ongoing advice on the old site rather than advised to come to the new one. Of course pepipoo might come back in a few days, but if any deadlines have been missed on live cases it'll be a bit late for those OPs.

According to correspondence I've had with a ong-term ppp regular, she has been in touch with the ppp owners and they were unaware the site was down. It is a server error which they are now trying to fix.
The fact that the site owners are unaware of their site being down for days at a time speaks for itself, it suggests that even if it is fixed, should there be another problem it could take days or maybe even weeks to resolve the problem. Of course no site has 100% uptime, ftla experienced a DNS outage last year. The difference is that I was able to get in touch with the platform provider and all was solved within 30 minutes or so.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: John U.K. on March 20, 2024, 08:14:16 pm
According to correspondence I've had with a ong-term ppp regular, she has been in touch with the ppp owners and they were unaware the site was down. It is a server error which they are now trying to fix.
Many thanks for the update.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: roythebus on March 20, 2024, 07:22:52 pm
According to correspondence I've had with a ong-term ppp regular, she has been in touch with the ppp owners and they were unaware the site was down. It is a server error which they are now trying to fix.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 20, 2024, 06:39:10 pm
I’m not sure how we would make them any more aware of it than we already have done.
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I will say this Pepipoo must have helped scores of people in the past.



There are links in other Forums (Money Saving Expert etc)to Pepipoo and it has a huge reputation Southpaw.


Its a shame to see it go....if thats what happens.


It looks like you have done well to keep it going as long as you have !!
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Southpaw82 on March 20, 2024, 05:37:21 pm
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I have a hunch you may not be on Pepipoo anymore...I dont think anyone is??  Which promped my question ??
Yes, I'm well aware of which site I'm on. Your question seemed to be "Can't you get together with Southpaw and amke this site boogie now."... This site is up and running, and has been for a number of months, hence my confusion as to what your point was.

My point was ....it seems a bit terminal for Pepipoo now.

The regular  Posters  on that site will probably need somewhere to weave their magic and get involved with the banter....like before.


Are they all aware of this page/site/domain ??

I’m not sure how we would make them any more aware of it than we already have done.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Hippocrates on March 20, 2024, 04:05:07 pm
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I have a hunch you may not be on Pepipoo anymore...I dont think anyone is??

We went through this last June. Eventually Pepipoo arose from the dead.

The problem is that no-one knows whether Pepipoo is permanently or temporarily dead.
Some people are trying to find out.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 20, 2024, 04:03:07 pm
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I have a hunch you may not be on Pepipoo anymore...I dont think anyone is??  Which promped my question ??
Yes, I'm well aware of which site I'm on. Your question seemed to be "Can't you get together with Southpaw and amke this site boogie now."... This site is up and running, and has been for a number of months, hence my confusion as to what your point was.

My point was ....it seems a bit terminal for Pepipoo now.

The regular  Posters  on that site will probably need somewhere to weave their magic and get involved with the banter....like before.


Are they all aware of this page/site/domain ??
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Hippocrates on March 20, 2024, 03:58:40 pm
My problem is that I have a few lice cases on the other site and the OPs may not transfer on to this site.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: DWMB2 on March 20, 2024, 03:51:48 pm
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I have a hunch you may not be on Pepipoo anymore...I dont think anyone is??  Which promped my question ??
Yes, I'm well aware of which site I'm on. Your question seemed to be "Can't you get together with Southpaw and amke this site boogie now."... This site is up and running, and has been for a number of months, hence my confusion as to what your point was.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 20, 2024, 03:42:53 pm


Ok John....Thanks for that.

I dont want to be a Judas... Pepipoo has been very helpful to me over the years...I would like to be involved with both.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: John U.K. on March 20, 2024, 03:34:10 pm
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I have a hunch you may not be on Pepipoo anymore...I dont think anyone is??

We went through this last June. Eventually Pepipoo arose from the dead.

The problem is that no-one knows whether Pepipoo is permanently or temporarily dead.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 20, 2024, 03:14:42 pm
Well I thought with your site(which I say again is more funky)taking over there would be loads of new posts from new members and resurrected old ones from old Members of Peppipoo
I'm not sure what you mean - as far as I can see there are "loads of new posts from new members" (and some members, including me, are on PePiPoo also) - there have been 17,000 posts on here in 10 months...
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I have a hunch you may not be on Pepipoo anymore...I dont think anyone is??

Which promped my question ??
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: DWMB2 on March 20, 2024, 03:08:22 pm
Well I thought with your site(which I say again is more funky)taking over there would be loads of new posts from new members and resurrected old ones from old Members of Peppipoo
I'm not sure what you mean - as far as I can see there are "loads of new posts from new members" (and some members, including me, are on PePiPoo also) - there have been 17,000 posts on here in 10 months...
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 20, 2024, 02:46:02 pm
Let's be pragmatic and scientific about this. Many decisions have been superseded by higher authorities. Their details may well be best included in members' specific posts.
They are, but nobody is going to go back and update old threads which have been overtaken by events.

Well I thought with your site(which I say again is more funky)taking over there would be loads of new posts from new members and resurrected old ones from old Members of Peppipoo

Can't you get together with Southpaw and amke this site boogie now.


Get The Rookie involved as well....he's very proactive ?? 
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Hippocrates on March 20, 2024, 12:25:22 pm
Let's be pragmatic and scientific about this. Many decisions have been superseded by higher authorities. Their details may well be best included in members' specific posts.
They are, but nobody is going to go back and update old threads which have been overtaken by events.
Except to research some important information. :D
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 17, 2024, 09:53:32 pm
Let's be pragmatic and scientific about this. Many decisions have been superseded by higher authorities. Their details may well be best included in members' specific posts.
They are, but nobody is going to go back and update old threads which have been overtaken by events.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Hippocrates on March 17, 2024, 07:56:54 pm
Let's be pragmatic and scientific about this. Many decisions have been superseded by higher authorities. Their details may well be best included in members' specific posts.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 17, 2024, 07:20:31 pm
All Good.


Thanks for explaining that!!
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 17, 2024, 01:48:49 pm
If it were possible I would merge the positives from both Forums and express the History of Pepipoo in the more up to date format of this one.
I will repeat what I've said many times before: most information on both fora is out of date, information becomes out of date within months if not weeks. This means that 99.99% of the information on pepipoo is obsolete, at least as far as council matters are concerned.

The true value in the forms is in the people they bring together, rather than in any of the historical posts. Those who rely on previous posts and run their own appeals without actually seeking advice often lose for that very reason, you can see it on the tribunal register when adjudicators comment about submissions that don't seem relevant to the case and which, when questioned, an appellant appeared to have no understanding of.

The pepipoo admins have not updated the software in over a decade and over here we have the distinct advantage of having a media friendly domain name, no mainstream journalist has ever been willing to name pepipoo while the Telegraph actually included a link to the site in an article last year, hopefully we can get a few more.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 17, 2024, 12:26:40 pm
Never.....I find your posts quite arbitrary informed and helpful.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: guest46 on March 17, 2024, 12:14:02 pm
Having been banned from one for expressing an opinion....I can't possibly comment!!
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 17, 2024, 12:09:15 pm
Ok.....I am not shy in expressing an opinion.

For this Feedback lets assume you and Southpaw are colleagues and not vying for the attention of the most members.


I find this site more Funky and Modern and the title of the site would pick up more Google Hits with the name.But Pepipoo has a big history and a huge reputation and respect for what it does.


If it were possible I would merge the positives from both Forums and express the History of Pepipoo in the more up to date format of this one.

Of course I will probably get kicked of one or both Forums for mentioning that opinion ....but apologies.

I wonder what the other members think ...it seems a little odd having the same stories in two different sites...but thats just me.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: cp8759 on March 17, 2024, 10:38:15 am
Has the main forum suffered another Cyber Attack??
@Ziggyplayedguitar2 this is the main forum as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: slapdash on March 17, 2024, 10:14:40 am
In terms of pepipoo no. Just wait and see.

Sombody may post to the flame pit thread here when it does a lazarus at which point clearing cache or cookies etc may be worth trying if it hasn't worked on your specific device.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 17, 2024, 09:49:37 am
Thanks....



Nothing I c an do then ??
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: slapdash on March 17, 2024, 09:26:29 am
Look at the available board names and hazard a guess.

I imagine it will be resolved when wherever the MySQL host is get rebooted, or a lead plugged back in.
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 17, 2024, 08:43:34 am
Thanks



What is an FP please ?? And how do I get on it ??
Title: Re: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: guest46 on March 17, 2024, 08:35:51 am
Wrong place to post this one? There's a longish thread in the FP which (sort of) explains!
Title: PePiPoo site down??
Post by: Ziggyplayedguitar2 on March 17, 2024, 07:50:36 am
Hi


Has the main forum suffered another Cyber Attack??



IPS Driver Blocked is the message I have been getting.




Maybe I'm blocked....dont remember posting anything too emaotional ??