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Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Hi all

Can someone please help me. I've just received a pcn from the council today (13.03.25) for something that happened on 09.10.24.

I have attached all the documents they have provided.  Basically I have been stopping here 2 or 3 times a week for past 5 years  or so as do 100s as there are a parade of shops and takeaways. max I usually stay for is 5mins as I usually order food ahead.

Today they sent me this and saying they will also fine for every other time I've parked here.

There are no signs to say no parking or stopping. There is a bike lane and as the picture shows i park so that there lane is left

I've not responded to them. Is there anything I can say to get it cancelled? For what it's worth I usually have my son with me who's autistic and a blue badge holder

Also from Google it says max they can charge is £50 yet they charging me £100.


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Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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This is very unusual - it looks like footway parking, which would normally be dealt with by a PCN.

The late issuing of this FPN is also odd. I think they have 6 months to serve it and this is a day over.

What is the Google Maps location?

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Hi

Below is the link

https://maps.app.goo.gl/r3ogYVYkX5efyeia6

I dnt get it. Every day all day people are stopping there. In past week or so they've harder yellow blips on curb but that will only mean no parking on curb/road no?

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Isn't the location wrong? It's billet road. The bus stop is guildsway.

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You need to keep off the footway. As of Maps view, you can park with no problem on the carriageway on the single yellow line after whatever time its restriction stops - 6.30pm in this zone.

With a blue badge you get 3 hours at any time provided they've not made it no loading as you indicate but a timeplate will tell you when loading applies.

I'm sure someone will help with the FPN but usually these have to be paid.
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Even if I'm parked on pavement close to the shops and left plenty of space of both cyclists and pedestrians?, seems unfair to give ticket for this. There are no signs and barely there for 5mins

Also online it says its only wilful if after being told to move I refuse to do so

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Footway parking has been banned in London since the 1970s and applies to all public-accessible areas off the carriageway.
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Thanks

Il wait  a few days in case others can help. I don't see why they can't just put sign saying no stopping/parking. Every day 100s are parked there.

Also image shows my son waiting in car, will this help my case? Also fact hat it was only few mins and I was within 10 meters from car when collecting the takeaway

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Others will good better advice but I've pointed out that the road given is wrong. That may be helpful.
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I will use that in my appeal to. They given name of the bus stop. Guildway road is the side road opposite I was parked. 

Will they not just respond by saying we given location of where you were parked according to the bus stop?

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Ps does anyone know any legitimate reasons if and when someone can park/stop on pavement?

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Ps does anyone know any legitimate reasons if and when someone can park/stop on pavement?

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Save as provided in subsections (3), (4), (7) and (11), any person who causes or permits any vehicle to be parked in Greater London with one or more wheels [F2on or over any part of a road] other than a carriageway [F3, or on or over a footpath,] shall be guilty of an offence

You can find the relevant exemptions here:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15

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Ps does anyone know any legitimate reasons if and when someone can park/stop on pavement?

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Save as provided in subsections (3), (4), (7) and (11), any person who causes or permits any vehicle to be parked in Greater London with one or more wheels [F2on or over any part of a road] other than a carriageway [F3, or on or over a footpath,] shall be guilty of an offence

You can find the relevant exemptions here:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15



thanks for that, it says on the site you wont be penalised if "the vehicle was not left unattended at any time while it was so parked; or".  As my wife was also in the car and had the keys plus i was only metres away and had constant view of the car, will this be sufficient? had there been a need to move either of us would have been able to move the car in matter of seconds

Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Did you satisfy all corresponding parts of 3c or 3d?

Also, I have to ask, if your wife was in the car & you had a blue badge, why didn't you just legally park in the road or one of the many parking spots or blue badge spots within a few tens of metres?
Those of us who walk to these shops and have children who walk along here hate all of the pavement parking.
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honestly? because i didnt know it was illegal to park there. id been doing it for years as have 100s of others. even yesteday and this morning cars were parked there. plus i was literally only out the car for 2mins,  the road is a bus main road and if parked on the double yellows then it would cause traffic as 1 lane would be blocked