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Re: When is a U turn not a U turn - Clayhall avenue Redbridge
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I'd change "2. The manoeuvre as shown does not constitute a U turn." to "2. The manoeuvre as shown does not constitute a U turn in Clayhall Avenue"
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Re: When is a U turn not a U turn - Clayhall avenue Redbridge
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I'd change "2. The manoeuvre as shown does not constitute a U turn." to "2. The manoeuvre as shown does not constitute a U turn in Clayhall Avenue"
I disagree because it gives them too much information. This is all about tactics.  Let them deduce and reply accordingly. In my experience, it is always best never to spell it out for them.
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Re: When is a U turn not a U turn - Clayhall avenue Redbridge
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Thanks everyone for your responses, very much appreciated

Sorry I haven’t replied before now, I didn’t realise I had any responses as not had notifications.

Noted about my illegal reversal into a main road (must do better!)

I will read through the judgement but seems the ruling is against me.

I did think the road name was wrong too.

I’m of a mind to challenge as l9ng as I can still pay the discounted rate which i think can.

I will update you.

Thanks again.

Re: When is a U turn not a U turn - Clayhall avenue Redbridge
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The reversal into into the main highway from a side road was merely a recommendation that you should not do this as Highways Code 201 says.

The criminal offence the poster mentioned was that you 'appeared' to have stopped with your front over/across the stop line at the traffic lights from the video. It maybe though from the camera angles this may not have been the case at all and you did indeed stop short.
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Re: When is a U turn not a U turn - Clayhall avenue Redbridge
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I’m of a mind to challenge as l9ng as I can still pay the discounted rate which i think can.
It's impossible to say as you've redacted the date of the PCN, contrary to the guidance. If you're going to make representations, I'd suggest you do so sooner rather than later, and that you do so via the council website (keep a screenshot of the confirmation page). The discount will be reoffered if you make representations during the discount period.

The criminal offence the poster mentioned was that you 'appeared' to have stopped with your front over/across the stop line at the traffic lights from the video. It maybe though from the camera angles this may not have been the case at all and you did indeed stop short.
I really wouldn't worry about it, the police does not take action for such de-minimis offences anyway, and even if they wanted to the 14 day deadline for a NIP to be served expired many, many weeks ago.
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Re: When is a U turn not a U turn - Clayhall avenue Redbridge
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I would follow my advice;  but, then I would say that wouldn't I?
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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r