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IMO, carry on, but this would be for the full penalty at this (NTO) stage, although they could re-offer the discount.

They seem fixated by reliance upon a location(column 27) not even within the b****y parking place, let alone the suspended area.

Instructions must be correct, clear and not confuse.

But first of all:
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Not sure how to proceed, any advice?

If you decide to carry on then there's nothing to do procedurally until the NTO is served and the timetable for this is in their response.

I have attached the image of on street view outlining everything along with their response.

Arrow being where my vehicle is parked along with the parking spaces numbered and where lampost 27 is.

I would be inclined to take it to formal representation on the basis of signage being unclear as it is outside the parking area - but off the balance of probabilities - how likely would you think it would be successful - rather than pay the reduced fee now and be done with it? Just soley based off your experience.

Appreciate all your help so far.



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The sign refers to column 27.

It's on column 23.

So where the f**k is this column 27?

Go to the right and you do not find any column in the parking place, you have to leave the parking place, go beyond a yellow line and then look further only to find that this is..column 21. B****r.

Oh well, retrace your steps and go to the left of column 23 and the only other column in the parking place is column 25.

Where and how would you find column 27? Traipse the streets? Remember, as a motorist you are safe ONLY as long as you remain in the parking place to read signs, make calls, use apps to pay etc. It's when you leave that you become vulnerable.

IMO, it's preposterous to expect a motorist to leave their car in potential contravention in order to search for a clue which isn't even on the parking place.

Each case turns on its own facts.

The law:

Traffic signs
18.—(1) Where an order relating to any road has been made, the order making authority shall take such steps as are necessary to secure—

(a)before the order comes into force, the placing on or near the road of such traffic signs in such positions as the order making authority may consider requisite for securing that adequate information as to the effect of the order is made available to persons using the road;

(b)the maintenance of such signs for so long as the order remains in force

IMO, the argument would be that the sign did not convey with the required degree of clarity the extent of the suspended area. The council had the options of including a plan/drawing, indicating where column 27 was and even saying commencing at the bay furthest from the entrance to the school.

The choice is yours, others will hopefully contribute.