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Hi there,

I received two PCNs for driving through a restricted road twice (going in both directions). Whilst it was dark at the time, it was rather clear the road was restricted to vehicle traffic. So I don't think I've any basis to challenge validity of the PCN due to poor signage or on any other circumstantial basis.

As such, I was about to pay the PCNs but the payment link provided on the PCN doesn't work, it leads to a 404: Page not found error (www.southwark.gov.uk/onlinepayments).

So just curious if this provides a basis to challenge the validity of the PCN, or by any chance is there anything wrong with the PCN that could be used to make a successful challenge?

All 4 pages of the PCN:
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The PCN is invalid as it curtails the period in which the council may serve a charge certificate as per the second sentence under the picture.

I make this collateral challenge re the validity of the PCN. The period in which you may serve a charge certificate is wrongly expressed as it is truncated. Please see Schedule I of the 2003 Act which clearly states from the date of service as provided at para. 5(2)

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/schedule/1/enacted

In light of the above, please cancel.

Choose ground: penalty exceeds amount.

A case won:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eBqcDMk8dp08Xgxs1BP9IzxXz8n5Jv6s/view
« Last Edit: April 27, 2025, 09:11:31 pm by Hippocrates »
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The representation was rejected with what seems to be a fairly standard auto reply.

https://imgur.com/a/rejected-representation-3dPzRAg

At least this time they provided the correct payment link.

Is there a good chance of getting this cancelled if appealing to the Adjudicators? I'm quite tempted to just pay to be honest especially considering the clear infraction.
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Hold fire please and screenshot what the payment status is this very day for both and keep a record.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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