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And to clarify, they want 65 for each PCN (while the discount period is active)

My uncle recevied another letter (he had been away so only seeing it now): https://ibb.co/3mHy4NQt.

It is concerning that the previous letter from Wandsworth gave 28 days from Jan 16th to make payment but then this recovery letter is dated on Jan 21st. On the payment for the pcn, it still shows as £65.

For convenience






How long do we have to wait for the council to register the pcns? I have sent Te9 forms multiple times to be on the safe side but they have been rejected due to not being registered. It has been 2 months since receiving the last correspondance and 4 months since receiving the charge certificates.

It is pointless submitting TE9s until the debt is registered. When they register it, the amount on the CC goes up by £10 being the registration fee, so when you can see the amount owing on their website has gone up by £10, you can submit a TE9. You should also get an Order for Recovery in the post too. There is only a fixed time allowed for TE9 submission, from the date the debt is registered. I think it is 21 days, but I'm not sure.

I don't think this is consistent advice.

When I had the same issue with LBBD, it just showed as unable to pay rather than increase the fine by £10.

Additionally with the Wandsworth charge it says it will increase by £8.

I don't think it is reasonable that I should be checking every day/week for the foreseeable future until they decide to register the charge.

Is there no time limit for them to register it? I mean if not then fine I can't do anything.


They still have not registered the PCNs.

I also have my own PCN with Dagenham where I received a charge certificate in mid Jan 2025 due to not receiving the NTK - I am waiting for this to be registered as well. Despite contacting Dagenham council asking them to register it (they said it will be), nothing has happened.

I don't think this is consistent advice.

When I had the same issue with LBBD, it just showed as unable to pay rather than increase the fine by £10.

Additionally with the Wandsworth charge it says it will increase by £8.

I don't think it is reasonable that I should be checking every day/week for the foreseeable future until they decide to register the charge.

Is there no time limit for them to register it? I mean if not then fine I can't do anything.
Wandsworth is out-of-date, the charge used to be £8, but is now £10. You don't have to check with TEC every day, only every 10-14 days. The process is that when they register, they send you an Order for Recovery in the post, and also the form to submit a Statutory Declaration. OUr advice about contacting TEC and also looking on the council website is because we have had people on here who never got the OfR in the post, so had to submit Out-of-Time declarations. The problem with these is that the council can and do object to them, folowing which the declaration is rejected.

We're only trying to make sure you don't fall into any traps. You don't have to follow our advice, you can always just wait for the OfR to turn up. Councils can be dilatory in registering PCN debts, but they cannot get the money unless they do so, so normally one doesn't have to wait long.

Finally some update but really need some advice.

They sent the order of recovery for 3 of them.

I submitted TE9 forms but it was rejected as I apparently need to send PE2 and pe3 forms which require a witness from a solicitor or officer of the court!

Why these forms instead of the TE9? This is very time consuming and solicitors are asking for £15 per form.

And my uncle is out of the country! We're already past the 21 day mark for one of the tickets.


Why these forms instead of the TE9? This is very time consuming and solicitors are asking for £15 per form.
It's the legislative mess we're in, (as usual for the UK !). The London-specific legislation for traffic and bus lane offences, demands submission of PE2 and PE3. But TEC aren't going to tell you that. Their website is truly awful, totally confusing to anybody that doesn't know what to submit.

Anyway, you know now, or as the Scots would say, "ye ken the noo" !

This is so annoying, the forms were rejected. Reason: You have not completed both forms. Please complete the attached both forms PE2 and PE3 and return both forms together.

We do not keep invalid applications. Please return all appeal forms together, along with any supporting documents/evidence.

I was under the assumption only pe3 needs to be completed and PE2 for ones outside the 21 day limit?

We messed up. After submitting the pe3 forms, we got this letter for 3 of them:

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I write with reference to your Witness Statement which was filed with the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC) under ground 3 that you appealed against the Local authority's decision to reject my representaions within 28 days of service of the rejection notice but had no response to your appeal.
In light of the TEC revoking order I am writing to explain that we have no record of your appeal to the adjudicator. In order for us to consider this matter further, please provide your appeal that you have referred to in your witness statement to TEC, within 21 days of this Ietter. You can also email it to ParkingComplianceRec@richmondandwandsworth.gov.uk.

Once received we will refer your appeal to the adjudication service with an application payment of the PCN at £136:00 which may also include costs.

Should you fail to provide the appeal as requested above, we will refer your witness statement to the adijudication service with an application payment of the PCN at the charge certificate amount (£195.00).
Alternatively I will accept the discounted amount of £65.00 if payment is received within 14 days of the date of this letter.
You may pay by debit or credit card via our website at www.wandsworth.gov.uk/pcnonline or over the telephone, by ringing 0800 021 7763 at any time.
clearly identified wih the Notice number should be sent to the following address:

We were meant to tick boxes 2, not 3. Not sure what to do now? Desperately need some input.

Also find it super odd where they say "alternatively I will..." rather than "We"