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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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I have appealed and will report ASAP whenever I receive their contest. Btw is there a timeline when this will be done? or is it a case where the council will decide when it goes ahead?

Make sure you have asked for a personal (face-to-face or telephone) hearing (never, ever, a decision on papers). You will then be given a date and time for the hearing, and the council must submit an evidence pack 4-5 days before the hearing date.
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Quote from: S.M on July 03, 2024, 05:49:08 pm
Quote from: Neil B on July 03, 2024, 05:04:11 pm
Quote from: S.M on July 03, 2024, 01:01:34 pm
Is there anyone that can guide me in terms of what to include in the application that i will make to the tribunal? Thank you
Normal MO is just to register your appeal online under 'the contravention did not occur' and state that you rely on your formal representations.
Then wait to see if they contest. If they do they will send an evidence pack and also upload that to the tribunal portal.
Come back here immediately if they do. their 'case summary' will normally give you some clues  about how you might then respond.

I have appealed and will report ASAP whenever I receive their contest. Btw is there a timeline when this will be done? or is it a case where the council will decide when it goes ahead?
I hope you opted for a personal hearing? These can be done by telephone.
the council should provide an evidence pack I think it's 7 days before the hearing.
I'm sure someone will correct me on that.
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edit parrot.
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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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Quote from: Neil B on July 03, 2024, 06:07:11 pm
Quote from: S.M on July 03, 2024, 05:49:08 pm
Quote from: Neil B on July 03, 2024, 05:04:11 pm
Quote from: S.M on July 03, 2024, 01:01:34 pm
Is there anyone that can guide me in terms of what to include in the application that i will make to the tribunal? Thank you
Normal MO is just to register your appeal online under 'the contravention did not occur' and state that you rely on your formal representations.
Then wait to see if they contest. If they do they will send an evidence pack and also upload that to the tribunal portal.
Come back here immediately if they do. their 'case summary' will normally give you some clues  about how you might then respond.

I have appealed and will report ASAP whenever I receive their contest. Btw is there a timeline when this will be done? or is it a case where the council will decide when it goes ahead?
I hope you opted for a personal hearing? These can be done by telephone.
the council should provide an evidence pack I think it's 7 days before the hearing.
I'm sure someone will correct me on that.

Yes i did ask for a personal hearing and ticked all the boxes apart from the 8-10 a.m slots.
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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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Yes i did ask for a personal hearing and ticked all the boxes apart from the 8-10 a.m slots.

Post the date when you have been given it.
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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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Quote from: John U.K. on July 03, 2024, 06:55:52 pm
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Yes i did ask for a personal hearing and ticked all the boxes apart from the 8-10 a.m slots.

Post the date when you have been given it.

Received appeal pack with hearing date of 01/08/2024 @ 15.30

hearing pack attached. on page 42 the council has submitted couple of pictures of the actual sign of the restriction but nothing to show advance warning signs before turning right.

https://file.io/8GJ811s2YwpW
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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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Currently there is a problem with their notices of rejections because they do not tell you that an adjudicator can extend time.* I would also state there is a plethora of signage which is confusing.

* 2170241413 and 218033612A.

I have looked at the photos and video. Surely, you would not have seen the sign on the left because of the tree?

Also, failure to consider your point about no advanced signage (though this is not legally necessary).

If you want one of us to represent you, I am free.

Submissions need to be filed at least 7 days before the hearing date.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2024, 08:36:46 pm by Hippocrates »
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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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Hi. Yes please if you would be able to represent that would be great.

So we are appealing on the basis of no advance signage?
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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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I'll message you.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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PM sent. We need to adjourn which is no problem.

« Last Edit: July 25, 2024, 06:43:17 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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 ;D
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E11
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Quote from: S.M on August 08, 2024, 04:05:23 pm
Quote from: Hippocrates on August 07, 2024, 08:38:38 pm
;D

Thanks for your help on this one :)

My absolute pleasure and it was very nice to meet you. All the best.  :)
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: WalthamForest E11, Code 53C Pedestrian/Cycle Zone, Harrington Road E11 / Leytonstone High Road E
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Hi there, I was just checking how it went as I received a penalty in the same road (High road turning into Harringtom, E11). The sign on the left was not visible because of a tree and I was looking left when I turned for cars coming in the opposite direction. No advance warnings that i could see either. Can someone help? Many thanks
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