Author Topic: Waltham Forest, Code 40 Contravention Parking in Disabled persons parking place, Clarendon Road E17  (Read 1662 times)

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I agree with PMB - don't respond now, let the process play out.

Except it will be a witness statement you need to do for the order for recovery, which is much easier than a statutory declaration.

This will also give us much more time to make reps against a properly reissued NTO.

Thank you @stamfordman and @Pastmybest - will share an update once the OFR arrives.

Hi @stamfordman and @Pastmybest,
Hope you well!
Just received my OFR (attached).
Shall I reply and say I did not receive my NTO?
Thanks!

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« Last Edit: July 21, 2025, 11:47:06 am by hot_chocolate »

Shall I reply and say I did not receive my NTO?

'Reply', no, action, yes.

The instructions are clear in that you must complete the enclosed TE9 form and send to the Traffic Enforcement Centre using one of the methods offered. We recommend using email, copied to yourself to prove sending, with the completed TE9 attached.

Just tick 'I did not receive the NTO in question' and sign.

Shall I reply and say I did not receive my NTO?

'Reply', no, action, yes.

The instructions are clear in that you must complete the enclosed TE9 form and send to the Traffic Enforcement Centre using one of the methods offered. We recommend using email, copied to yourself to prove sending, with the completed TE9 attached.

Just tick 'I did not receive the NTO in question' and sign.

Super, just sent across by email with completed form, and copied myself in.

Will update once the next letter comes through, which I believe will be the NTO.

Thanks again.

Hi @stamfordman, @Pastmybest, @H C Andersen, and everyone else,

Hope you well!

My NTO just through the other day, by email - attached.

As always, most grateful for guidance on the two options.

Thanks and best wishes!

We MUST see a copy of your witness statement and the revocation order from TEC.

Either you have boo-booed massively or WF have.

The order will tell us.

If it's WF then you're home and dry.

For reference, you were advised to submit the witness statement on the grounds that you did not receive the NTO.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2025, 03:29:55 pm by H C Andersen »

Thanks for the reply. I've attached the witness statement and the revocation order. I think I followed the instructions, and hope I haven't made a huge blunder :(   

Appreciate the help.



We MUST see a copy of your witness statement and the revocation order from TEC.

Either you have boo-booed massively or WF have.

The order will tell us.

If it's WF then you're home and dry.

For reference, you were advised to submit the witness statement on the grounds that you did not receive the NTO.

What?

You were advised to cite the grounds of 'Did not receive the Notice to Owner'.

Anyway, this is water under the bridge.

See what others think.

Ah, I must have just assumed it was the second option that I was meant to tick, since WF would be fully aware that I had already made a formal representation, and it was the rejection that I had not received. The new letter allows me to make another formal representation, and so I will respond like the first time, and take from there if they decide to reject it.




What?

You were advised to cite the grounds of 'Did not receive the Notice to Owner'.

Anyway, this is water under the bridge.

See what others think.

 What a collective c**k-up!

1. PCN - 9 Feb.
2. Informal reps - ??
3. Council rejection - 12 March
4. Re-offered discount ends - 27 March
5. NTO issued - 14 April, deemed served 16 April
6. Witness statement filed - 1 August
7  Revocation order issued - 1 August
8  Council 'reissued formal Notice of Rejection of your representation' - 19 August. This being a copy of their 12 March letter issued 5 weeks before the NTO!!

This is the Tribunal's Practice Direction where a WS has been reissued.

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Practice%20Direction%2003-2024%20on%20behalf%20of%20ETA%2028%20November%202024%20%28PWS%29.pdf

But it applies only where a lawful NoR has been served and not here where they refer to their response to informal reps as being a NoR.

This is such a chaotic mess that I'm not certain what options are open to you. Perhaps just an extra-procedural letter to Head of Parking pointing out their incredible failures and suggesting that they might want to draw a line under the whole sorry story?

Wait for others.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2025, 02:57:54 pm by H C Andersen »