Author Topic: PCN - Waltham Forest - Code 622 - Simmons Lane - Parking with one or more wheelover a footpath  (Read 279 times)

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Hi all,

Here is a link for the PCN and some photo of the PCN: https://imgur.com/a/ZzW1c6E


First time here, I normally would pay for the PCN to be over with it but I'm in a tough spot at the moment and its almost the money I made yesterday gone straight away. The street I am parked on has "bays" where cars park half on the footpath and half on the road. There are NO signs or restrictions or anything related to parking on the street.. just the white bays as its free parking in the whole area.

As you can see in the following photos, I could've parked a bit closer but I didn't. This was my mistake. Even if I did, the van still would be outside the lines as the bays are very narrow. The reason I parked like this is the wing mirror got hit last week and is a common occurrence on this road as its a side road that links 2 main roads.

I have a video of the ticket inspector on my camera that faces the van outside my window. The officer arrives and issues the fine within 45 seconds of parking his bike and slapping the PCN on. The irony is that he parks on the DOUBLE yellow lines to issue my ticket because you can see his bike in one of the PCN photos. Unbelievable.

My question is, can I challenge this in any way? I'm doing daily work and this is a van that was hired by the company I am working for (not consistent work). They let me bring it home as it was quite a late finish last night.

I would love any and all advice on how to challenge the appeal and what things I should point out. Again, I understand rules are rules, I am not shifting any blame. Would just love some advice on appealing if possible.

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Apart from the van not fitting in the 'bay' the bays are not compliant with the regulations as I can see no parking signage in Simmons Lane on Google Maps, and there is no traffic order for them. They are just white paint.

Assuming the council has a resolution permitting footway parking here then there cannot be a contravention in my view.





IMO, these are not parking places, they are purportedly markings on the footway delineating the extent of footway 'parking' under a resolution of the council.

IMO, the carriageway marking is bo*****s and has no legal effect whatsoever. The only carriageway markings permitted in this context are prescribed by the Traffic Signs etc. Regs and these relate to designated parking places. But there aren't any parking places traffic signs, so it's reasonable to assume that this is not a place where parking is permitted by law, just one where it's not prohibited by law! Therefore the carriageway markings have no legal basis. All a resolution may do is to disapply the GLC prohibition on the footway: the carriageway does not enter into matters.

OP, you tried to keep inside markings which have no legal effect and because of the width of your van you went beyond the limits of the footway markings.

Absent any traffic signs to the effect that parking with 2 wheels on the footway is permitted within marked bays, then IMO the council must explain the purposes of the footway markings and if these are intended to mark the limit of permitted parking then they must prove this by reference to a resolution made under s15(4) of the Greater London Council(General Powers) Act 1974.

There's a strong case to get this cancelled.

But a problem is you are not the owner. The council is very likely to reject an informal challenge (which you should do anyway), and then a notice to owner goes to the registered keeper - which is who, and how would they deal with a PCN?