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Hello all,

First-time poster, been driving in London for about 10 years, and this is my first 50r contravention ticket, I will admit I didn't see the sign, but one could heavily argue, that there was inappropriate signage - one sign on a busy road where buses can easily restrict the view.

I was driving to an open day at Queen Mary University and I knew where to park, as I was driving, I saw the chance to enter the road I needed to park on, It's pouring, and as I waited to turn right, just before the junction, I do not see any signage that says I wouldn't be able to turn in, but there was indeed ONE sign, but a few meters back being obstructed by buses constantly traveling down the bus lane. I know university is expensive but I did not expect to be paying for it so soon...

My argument is that if there was extra signage in conjunction with the single No right turn sign, the contravention would have been easily avoided.

Imgur - https://imgur.com/a/cYASPnX

Here is an image of the signage, the yellow circle is where I stopped to wait to turn in, there is no second chance to rectify your mistake, It's almost as if where intention to turn right is enough to get you stung, usually you would see another sign or wording to warn you but nothing at all.

The actual sign is on the right side of the image.

You can see even the buses can obstruct the sign.

apologies if anything is incorrect with the post, please advise and I will try to fix it as soon as possible.

I'm not sure if I should post the PCN number and reg plate, but if it helps, I am happy to respond with the details.

PCN Images from TFL Site : https://imgur.com/a/PzK2CIW

Outstanding amount as of today: £80

PCN Issue date (letter) : 20/06/2024
Today is 23/06/2024

PCN: GX16131219
REG: WJ07WKZ
PCN image - Front page - https://imgur.com/a/IsSHKYX

Well, actually there are two signs, one each side of the carriageway, (or there were in July 2022 when the GSV camera van came along) : -

https://maps.app.goo.gl/L7yRyqFJRCZ2qJ3Q6

So not as strong a case as you think it is.

Ignore my comment.

I've won here before, ages ago, in the case of Mohammed Khan v Transport for London (2220369682, 1 March 2022).

One of the key points is that the traffic order for this restriction was made by Tower Hamlets, though it is possible they might have made a new one so I will check.

@MMAP1 for now please call TFL on 0343 222 3333 and ask for the video, they will send you a DVD in the post and put the penalty on hold while you wait.

Hey,

Thanks a bunch for the responses, just finished work and will try to call today or on my lunch break tomorrow for the video.

I will have a look at the case, I am yet to start an appeal so I will do.

I think the case is reasonable, but I guess we will have to see.

Thanks again for the help.

Edit: I have called - DVD requested - +14 days allowance to 11th July.

@MMAP1 any updates on this please?

I have now received The A11 GLA Road and Side Roads (Whitechapel High Street, Whitechapel Road, Mile End Road and Bow Road, London Borough of Tower Hamlets) Banned Turns Traffic Order 2021.

The disc has arrived, and the file is in a .mkv format which my Macbook doesn't read.

Currently, I am using an apple superdrive to read the disc.

I am happy to take any advice on how to view the actual footage.

Please see the footage below - I downloaded a VLC Player and it was fine.



Edit: VLC Player and Link added

Appeal Submitted.

Hoping for the best I guess...

Maybe they do have me dead to rights here but man, I’ve never been hit with a no right turn ever.

I cannot post a photo attachment but here are the details;

Rep Reference Number: 53075563
PCN: GX16131219
Reg: WJ07WKZ

Thanks for the help so far, even getting it delayed is a bonus so I can save some cash to pay it off.