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Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
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My golden rule: do not admit to anything and let them prove their case. Have I not represented you before?
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
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My golden rule: do not admit to anything and let them prove their case. Have I not represented you before?

I don’t believe so! Not at at a tribunal or anything, although I have had advice from here in the past, if that’s what you mean!

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
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Looks OK to me. If nobody else suggests alterations, ram it in ! Don't expect them to roll-over and cancel, though.

Will it have a good chance of winning though, that’s the main thing!

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
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Good rather than bad

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #19 on: »
Submitted! I'll keep you guys informed! Thanks

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
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Hi guys

I've had a response from the council regarding my appeal (which they sent on 1st Apr, which I annoyingly missed in my inbox as I had a backlog I just worked through! - that means I lost my 14 day reduced period :/ )

Here is the response from the council, they rejected it
https://imgpile.com/p/pWGBps3

If you have any suggestions or advise, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #21 on: »
Well, if you're outside the discount period allowed, it is now a no-brainer to register an appeal with London Tribnals, because the penalty remains the same, and there are no additional costs at all. If you lose, you pay the full PCN penalty, and if you win, you pay nothing. The council, however have the PITA of preparing an evidence pack and must also pay the adjudication fee. So even if they win, they never get the full amount.

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #22 on: »
https://imgpile.com/p/pWGBps3

How original!

Wait for the Enforcement Notice and I will take care of this for you. Sorry I made a typo : 959 twice in the draft. No matter. I have won all my bus lane cases for the last 4 years or so and TH are one of them as they did not show up at the hearing which they MUST.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #23 on: »
Amazing great thank you so much! I notice that they haven't told me how to appeal - will that come with the enforcement notice you mention?

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #24 on: »
The Enforcement Notice will give details of grounds.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #25 on: »
Hi all, I've received the Enforcement notice ( here https://imgpile.com/p/TLrtS91 ) - please advise on how to proceed! Thanks in advance again!

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #26 on: »
Hi guys, any help would be much appreciated, i need to let them know soon what I plan to do! Thanks in advance!

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #27 on: »
What did you say in the first challenge?


Dear TH

Your video shows a sign to diagram 959 which is obscured. It does not show any sign to diagram 958 allegedly passed.. Therefore, the standard of proof of the alleged contravention is not satisfactory. Please cancel the PCN.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #28 on: »
Here is the appeal that I sent that was rejected:


To Whom It May Concern,
I am writing to formally appeal against Penalty Charge Notice TT61001743, issued in respect
of vehicle VA17 SJO, for the alleged contravention of ‘being in a bus lane’ on Cambridge
Heath Road on 7/2/26.
I respectfully submit this appeal on the following grounds:
1. DE MINIMIS
Having reviewed the council’s own enforcement video, it is evident that my vehicle was
present within the bus lane for no more than approximately 7–10 metres, and at no point fully
within it. Upon realising I had inadvertently drifted into the bus lane, I moved back into the
traffic lane as promptly as was safely practicable, having first checked for vehicles to my
right.
The intrusion was momentary, minor, and immediately self-corrected. I submit that such a
brief and negligible incursion should properly be regarded as de minimis, and that issuing a
full Penalty Charge Notice in these circumstances is disproportionate and unreasonable.
 2. INADEQUATE SIGNAGE / INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE OF CONTRAVENTION
I further draw the council’s attention to the fact that the enforcement video submitted in
support of this PCN does not clearly show a sign to diagram 959 in a manner sufficient to
establish that the contravention occurred. The standard of proof required to sustain a Penalty
Charge Notice has therefore not been met.
For the above reasons, I respectfully request that this Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled in
full.

Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
« Reply #29 on: »
Ta. I will think it over and advise tomorrow.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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